Ready, steady… save!
You don’t need a chart to join in. Here are 2 ways to record your savings:
1. Cross it off
Pop a chart into your first post. Saved an amount? Cross it out! Read more »
£0.01 £0.02 £0.03
2. Write it down
Skip the chart and add updates to your first post. Read more »
“Another +£3 saved today. Go me!”
Use +£ before each new saving so it counts towards your total.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
Back pay after retiring
Comments
-
Apologies, but what is the question ?1
-
It wasn't! Forums aren't just about asking questions. It's sharing details and might prompt some people to find about backdated pay rises they might have missed before leaving and then asking for them.LightFlare said:Apologies, but what is the question ?0 -
Also worth checking if the backdated pay has any impact on your pension...depending on your (former) employer and terms of employment, it could.philstephen said:
It wasn't! Forums aren't just about asking questions. It's sharing details and might prompt some people to find about backdated pay rises they might have missed before leaving and then asking for them.LightFlare said:Apologies, but what is the question ?
The following is taken from the LGPS factsheet for employers. For info about how LGPS pensions are treated, read https://lgpslibrary.org/assets/gas/scot/Pay%20award%20FAQs%20Scotland%20v1.0.pdfIf an employee leaves employment before the award is agreed, do we need to pay the award?
This is a question of employment law. In our view, you are not obliged to contact former employees to offer the pay award. However, if the former employee requests it, the pay award should be applied and arrears paid.
Googling on your question might have been both quicker and easier, if you're only after simple facts rather than opinions!0 -
That comment seems to be rather inequitable and I wonder whether it is correct.Marcon said:If an employee leaves employment before the award is agreed, do we need to pay the award?
This is a question of employment law. In our view, you are not obliged to contact former employees to offer the pay award. However, if the former employee requests it, the pay award should be applied and arrears paid.
If the employer is contractually obliged to make the payment to the former employee, that should hold true whether the former employee has kept up with appropriate trade press or not.0 -
Please don't selectively redact sections of my post in a way which could make it look as if I'm the one who said it! What I actually posted was:Grumpy_chap said:
That comment seems to be rather inequitable and I wonder whether it is correct.Marcon said:If an employee leaves employment before the award is agreed, do we need to pay the award?
This is a question of employment law. In our view, you are not obliged to contact former employees to offer the pay award. However, if the former employee requests it, the pay award should be applied and arrears paid.
If the employer is contractually obliged to make the payment to the former employee, that should hold true whether the former employee has kept up with appropriate trade press or not.Also worth checking if the backdated pay has any impact on your pension...depending on your (former) employer and terms of employment, it could.
The following is taken from the LGPS factsheet for employers. For info about how LGPS pensions are treated, read https://lgpslibrary.org/assets/gas/scot/Pay%20award%20FAQs%20Scotland%20v1.0.pdfIf an employee leaves employment before the award is agreed, do we need to pay the award?
This is a question of employment law. In our view, you are not obliged to contact former employees to offer the pay award. However, if the former employee requests it, the pay award should be applied and arrears paid.
Googling on your question might have been both quicker and easier, if you're only after simple facts rather than opinions!1 -
I did not selectively quote with the intent to show it as your original quote - I thought if the thread is read as a whole, the origin was clear.Marcon said:
Please don't selectively redact sections of my post in a way which could make it look as if I'm the one who said it! What I actually posted was:Grumpy_chap said:
That comment seems to be rather inequitable and I wonder whether it is correct.Marcon said:If an employee leaves employment before the award is agreed, do we need to pay the award?
This is a question of employment law. In our view, you are not obliged to contact former employees to offer the pay award. However, if the former employee requests it, the pay award should be applied and arrears paid.
If the employer is contractually obliged to make the payment to the former employee, that should hold true whether the former employee has kept up with appropriate trade press or not.Also worth checking if the backdated pay has any impact on your pension...depending on your (former) employer and terms of employment, it could.
The following is taken from the LGPS factsheet for employers. For info about how LGPS pensions are treated, read https://lgpslibrary.org/assets/gas/scot/Pay%20award%20FAQs%20Scotland%20v1.0.pdfIf an employee leaves employment before the award is agreed, do we need to pay the award?
This is a question of employment law. In our view, you are not obliged to contact former employees to offer the pay award. However, if the former employee requests it, the pay award should be applied and arrears paid.
Apologies if that was not the case or caused any offence.
I still think that the comment seems inequitable. If it is a matter of employment law as to whether the payments are dues, that should not vary between the (former) employee who asks for the money and the (former) employee who is unaware so does not ask for the money.0 -
But no employer is required to maintain contact with a former employee, surely? And sometimes people leave because they're moving house, or going travelling, and email addresses start bouncing back (if you even kept a personal email address on file).
and you definitely can't just pay the money into the last known bank account without making contact ... (Actually, we used to 'cull' our list of payees regularly, so chances are we wouldn't even have your details any more.)
So personally I think it's reasonable to have the 'ask and we'll pay it' policy.
In practice, we did make contact and pay it proactively. But it didn't happen often.
Signature removed for peace of mind1 -
The pension I'm in which is a defined benefit scheme would be updated with any salary information from employers every July. So last done in July 2023 seeing as I retired in April 2024 and now drawing it down. Nothing in the way funding for the pension was taken out of the back pay the other day, just tax and NI.Marcon said:
Also worth checking if the backdated pay has any impact on your pension...depending on your (former) employer and terms of employment, it could.philstephen said:
It wasn't! Forums aren't just about asking questions. It's sharing details and might prompt some people to find about backdated pay rises they might have missed before leaving and then asking for them.LightFlare said:Apologies, but what is the question ?
The following is taken from the LGPS factsheet for employers. For info about how LGPS pensions are treated, read https://lgpslibrary.org/assets/gas/scot/Pay%20award%20FAQs%20Scotland%20v1.0.pdfIf an employee leaves employment before the award is agreed, do we need to pay the award?
This is a question of employment law. In our view, you are not obliged to contact former employees to offer the pay award. However, if the former employee requests it, the pay award should be applied and arrears paid.
0 -
Making contact isn't quite the same as 'maintaining' contact - and backdated pay awards are usually done within a reasonably short space of time, so the employer would still have the 'last known' details available.Savvy_Sue said:But no employer is required to maintain contact with a former employee, surely? And sometimes people leave because they're moving house, or going travelling, and email addresses start bouncing back (if you even kept a personal email address on file).
and you definitely can't just pay the money into the last known bank account without making contact ... (Actually, we used to 'cull' our list of payees regularly, so chances are we wouldn't even have your details any more.)
So personally I think it's reasonable to have the 'ask and we'll pay it' policy.
In practice, we did make contact and pay it proactively. But it didn't happen often.
Pension scheme trustees face a much more difficult problem the whole time, especially with the infamous 'GMP equalisation' exercise. Some (by no means all) people who transferred out of a scheme decades ago could still be entitled to a 'top up' if they had a GMP and the scheme hadn't equalised benefits at the time of payment. Looking for someone after a gap of possibly 30+ years is a much trickier ask!
Googling on your question might have been both quicker and easier, if you're only after simple facts rather than opinions!0 -
I agree that pension companies have a much harder task! When anyone gave me a new address at work, I gave them a list of people to notify: HMRC, DVLA and the pension!Marcon said:
Making contact isn't quite the same as 'maintaining' contact - and backdated pay awards are usually done within a reasonably short space of time, so the employer would still have the 'last known' details available.Savvy_Sue said:But no employer is required to maintain contact with a former employee, surely? And sometimes people leave because they're moving house, or going travelling, and email addresses start bouncing back (if you even kept a personal email address on file).
and you definitely can't just pay the money into the last known bank account without making contact ... (Actually, we used to 'cull' our list of payees regularly, so chances are we wouldn't even have your details any more.)
So personally I think it's reasonable to have the 'ask and we'll pay it' policy.
In practice, we did make contact and pay it proactively. But it didn't happen often.
Pension scheme trustees face a much more difficult problem the whole time, especially with the infamous 'GMP equalisation' exercise. Some (by no means all) people who transferred out of a scheme decades ago could still be entitled to a 'top up' if they had a GMP and the scheme hadn't equalised benefits at the time of payment. Looking for someone after a gap of possibly 30+ years is a much trickier ask!Signature removed for peace of mind0
Confirm your email address to Create Threads and Reply
Categories
- All Categories
- 355.9K Banking & Borrowing
- 255K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
- 456.2K Spending & Discounts
- 248.4K Work, Benefits & Business
- 606.1K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
- 179K Life & Family
- 263.9K Travel & Transport
- 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
- 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
- 37.7K Read-Only Boards