UC, Self-Employed and 'transitional protection'.

Spoonie_Turtle

Oneplanetonelife said:

SpikeyKitten said:

Oneplanetonelife said:

What happens at the end of the year if you end the business because it failed

With regards to my UC claim? I've no idea, it's all new to me. I imagine they'd just reclassify you as a 'jobseeker' and expect you to look for work.

Yes you would just report your business didn’t work out and be a jobseeker for a bit, then when they start to put pressure on you start a slightly different business and get the first year again with no min income floor

Not within five years of your previous start-up period, you don't.

H4102 A claimant can only have one start up period in relation to the same trade, profession or vocation on a current or previous award of UC.
However if that previous start-up period
1. began more than five years before the beginning of the assessment period in which the claimant is determined to be gainfully S/E and
2. applied to a different trade, profession or vocation then the Secretary of State may apply a new start-up period.

SpikeyKitten

Can anyone explain how council tax support now works in my situation?

Say if I begin my claim for UC, but my earnings for the first month are £2k. I get no UC award, if I then apply for Council Tax Support, they too are likely to say, "nope, earnings too high". Fair enough, but then if the next month I earn nothing?

Am I expected to make a new claim every month? Previously, on Working Tax Credits, the council would write to me once a year asking for my earnings. My award would then increase or decrease accordingly.

Thank you.

Oneplanetonelife

Spoonie_Turtle said:

Oneplanetonelife said:

SpikeyKitten said:

Oneplanetonelife said:

What happens at the end of the year if you end the business because it failed

With regards to my UC claim? I've no idea, it's all new to me. I imagine they'd just reclassify you as a 'jobseeker' and expect you to look for work.

Yes you would just report your business didn’t work out and be a jobseeker for a bit, then when they start to put pressure on you start a slightly different business and get the first year again with no min income floor

Not within five years of your previous start-up period, you don't.

H4102 A claimant can only have one start up period in relation to the same trade, profession or vocation on a current or previous award of UC.
However if that previous start-up period
1. began more than five years before the beginning of the assessment period in which the claimant is determined to be gainfully S/E and
2. applied to a different trade, profession or vocation then the Secretary of State may apply a new start-up period.

Same trade?

just do something that is not considered same trade

Spoonie_Turtle

Oneplanetonelife said:

Spoonie_Turtle said:

Oneplanetonelife said:

SpikeyKitten said:

Oneplanetonelife said:

What happens at the end of the year if you end the business because it failed

With regards to my UC claim? I've no idea, it's all new to me. I imagine they'd just reclassify you as a 'jobseeker' and expect you to look for work.

Yes you would just report your business didn’t work out and be a jobseeker for a bit, then when they start to put pressure on you start a slightly different business and get the first year again with no min income floor

Not within five years of your previous start-up period, you don't.

H4102 A claimant can only have one start up period in relation to the same trade, profession or vocation on a current or previous award of UC.
However if that previous start-up period
1. began more than five years before the beginning of the assessment period in which the claimant is determined to be gainfully S/E and
2. applied to a different trade, profession or vocation then the Secretary of State may apply a new start-up period.

Same trade?

just do something that is not considered same trade

Read it again.

Not within five years of the previous start-up period
AND
Different trade.


"However if that previous start-up period

1. began more than five years before the beginning of the assessment period in which the claimant is determined to be gainfully S/E and

2. applied to a different trade, profession or vocation

then the Secretary of State may apply a new start-up period."