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Buying a property close to rail lines - anything to watch out for/clarify?

Hi There,

We just got offer accepted in a lovely house (I caused some stir with my other thread on this) in north London and I just downloaded the title register and plan from land registry website to try to find out if there's anything interesting about the property. 

One thing that caught my attention is a number of restrictions placed on the property dating back to early 1930's, due to it being close to railway lines then owned by  London
Passenger Transport Board and I assume currently TfL. I'll list the restrictions below. 

I'm not an expert in reading this document but looks like there's a number of additive clauses, so the last one (number 4) is the most relevant.

I assume it's my solicitors responsibility to read all this and advice me accordingly - but are there specific things I should instruct my solicitor on? For example:
  • Will there be an issue building an out house/home office/summer house at the back of the house which is closest to the rail lines?
  • Will there be an issue if I wanted to create a garage?
  • Will there be an issue if we wanted to do a ground floor extension or a loft extension?
  • Anything else?
Thanks!

And for those who love this type of stuff...
  1. The following are details of the covenants
    contained in the Transfer dated 21 December 1934
    referred to in the Charges Register:-
    "The purchaser to the intent and so as to bind (so
    far as practicable) the property hereby transferred
    into whosesoever hands the same may come and to
    benefit and protect the other parts of the said
    Whitehouse Farm Estate now vested in the Board
    or in purchasers from the Board but not so as to
    render the purchaser personally liable in damages
    for any breach of covenant committed after he shall
    have parted with all interest in the premises in
    respect of which such breach shall occur HEREBY
    COVENANTS with the Board to observe and
    perform the restrictions and stipulations set forth
    in the Second Schedule hereto.

  2. (a) No house shall be erected upon the property
    hereby transferred which shall be of less prime cost
    for labour and materials than £500 and a minimum
    cubic capacity of 12,000 cubic feet.

    (b) No house erected upon the property hereby
    transferred shall be used for any other purpose
    than as a private dwelling house or the professional.
    residence of a solicitor Architect Medical
    Practitioner or Dentist but so that the purchaser
    shall be entitled to have upon the property hereby
    transferred temporary offices or sheds for use in
    connection with the development of the property
    hereby transferred and shall be entitled together
    with persons claiming title under him to carry on or
    permit any business connected with such
    development including that of an Estate Agent
    Auctioneer Surveyor and Mortgage or Insurance
    Broker or House Furnisher.

    (c) No house shall be erected upon the property
    hereby transferred otherwise than in accordance
    with specifications drawings plans and elevations
    reasonably previously approved by the Board's
    Estate Agent and no building shall be commenced
    upon the property hereby transferred until such
    Estate Agent shall have given a certificate in writing
    of such approval. The fees payable to the Board's
    Estate Agent shall be the sum of £5.5.0. for the
    reasonable approval of the plans specifications
    drawaings and elevation of any one type of house.
    No further certificates shall be required in respect
    of any house erected upon the property sold which
    shall be built in accordance with specifications
    drawings plans and elevations already approved by
    the Board's Estatae Agent."

  3. (a) No house shall be erected upon that part of the
    property hereby transferred which lies to the west
    of the vendor's railway line which shall be of less
    prime cost for labour and materials than Five
    hundred pounds and a minimum cubic capacity of
    Twelve thousand cubic feet.
    (b) No house which has been or shall be erected
    upon the property hereby transferred shall be used
    for any other purpose than as a private
    dwelling house or the professional residence of a
    solicitor Architect Medical Practitioner or Dentist
    but so that the Purchaser shall be entitled to have
    upon the property hereby transferred temporary
    offices or sheds for use in connection with the
    development of the property hereby transferred
    and shall be entitled together with persons
    claiming title under him to carry on or permit any
    business connected with such development
    including that of an Estate Agent Auctioneer
    Surveyor and Mortgage or Insurance Brokeror
    House Furnisher.
    (c) No house shall be erected upon the property
    hereby transferred otherwise than in accordancae
    with specifications drawings plans and elevations
    reasonably previously approved by the Board's
    Estate Agent and no building shall be commenced
    upon the property hereby transferred until such
    Estate Agent shall have given a certificate in writing
    of such approval
    (d) The fee payable to the Board's Estate Agent
    shall be the sum of Five guineas for the reasonable
    approval of the plans specifications drawings and
    elevations of any one type of house and no further
    certificates shall be required in respect of any
    house erected on the property sold which shall be
    built in accordance with specifications drawings
    plans and elevations already approved by the
    Board's Estate Agent."

  4. "The sub-purchaser to the intent and so as to bind
    (so far as practicable) the land hereby transferred
    into whosesoever hands the same may come and to
    benefit and protect the other parts of the
    Whitehouse Farm Estate (of which the land hereby
    transferred forms part) now vested in the Vendor
    the purchaser or in other purchasers from the
    vendor but not so as to render the sub-purchasers
    personally liable for damages for any breach of
    covenant after they shall have parted with all
    interest in the land in respect of which such breach
    shall occur hereby covenant with the vendor to
    observe and perform the following restrictions and
    stipulations:-
    (a) No houses shall be erected upon the land
    hereby transferred which shall be of less prime cost
    for labour and materials than Four hundred and
    twenty pounds and a minimum cubic capacity of
    ten thousand cubic feet
    (b) Proper boundary walls or substantial fences
    surrounding each plot upon the land hereby
    transferred shall be made and maintained by the
    sub-purchasers or its successors in title such walls
    or fences to be of such height and design as shall
    be reasonably prescribed by the vendor or his
    (c) No bricks or tiles shall at any time be made or
    burnt nor shall any clay or lime be burnt on the land
    hereby transferred nor shall any clay or gravel be
    dug thereout except such as may be necessary for
    the making of foundations and no operative
    machinery shall at any time be fixed or set thereon
    or in any building to be erected thereon except
    such as may be reasonably necessary for the
    execution of the said approved works.
    (d) No temporary buildings of any kind or caravans
    or huts on wheels or roundabouts shall at any time
    be erected or placed on the land hereby transferred
    other than sheds or workshops to be used only for
    the execution of the approved works or for works
    incidental to the erection of permanent buildings
    on the land hereby transferred.
    (e) No house erected upon the land hereby
    transferred shall be used for any other purpose
    than as a private dwellinghouse or the professional
    residence of a solicitor architect medical
    practitioner or dentist but so that the subpurchasers shall be entitled to have upon the land
    hereby transferred temporary offices for use in
    connection with the development of the land
    hereby transferred in manner herein provided and
    shall be entitled together with persons claiming
    title under them to carry or or permit any business
    connected with such development during the
    course thereof including that of Estate Agents
    Auctioneers Surveyors and Mortgage or Insurance
    Brokers or House Furnishers.
    (f) No placard poster or display board shall be
    erected or exhibited on the land hereby transferred
    save such as shall have been previously approved
    by the vendor's surveyor but so that no such
    placard poster or display board shall be larger than

 









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  • youth_leader
    youth_leader Posts: 2,874 Forumite
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    When my husband died I had to sell my listed grade II railway station, on the live East Coast Main Line.  We lived there for twenty odd years and you get used to the trains very quickly, and miss them when they stop running in snow etc.

    We were fully fenced, but only had the platform width of about five foot and the earth grass covered bank between us and the railway tracks.

    I'm not sure how near your property is to the line, but the new station owner has been telling people he has been quoted £30K to stop the trains for a period so that scaffolding can be put up lineside and roofing works commenced lineside.
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  • HillStreetBlues
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    edited 14 February at 1:37AM
    A friend lived right by a railway line, it was a quiet line but when a train did come I found myself humming "In the middle of the House". there are certainly much worst noises than a train (my humming is one of them).
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  • FreeBear
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    maxxpayne said:
    4(d) No temporary buildings of any kind or caravans
    or huts on wheels or roundabouts shall at any time
    be erected or placed on the land hereby transferred
    other than sheds or workshops to be used only for
    the execution of the approved works or for works
    incidental to the erection of permanent buildings
    on the land hereby transferred.
    This section of the covenant appears to exclude any shed or temporary structure (e.g. a summer house) to be erected now that the house has been completed. Your solicitor would be able to confirm.
    One would suppose that you could make an application to TfL enclosing a fee of five guineas (£5.25 in modern money I think). Or you could just put the shed up and accept that you may be instructed to remove it at some point in the future (I suspect a very small risk).
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  • Albermarle
    Albermarle Posts: 27,291 Forumite
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    I have a commuter ( and occasionally freight) line at the end of the garden. I do not remember it being mentioned in any of the paperwork when buying the house ( although it was a long time ago) or any restrictions/covenants.
    I think though Network Rail have some statutory powers in case you have a massive tree causing problems, or something like that.
    Noise wise, it still can be an issue if you are in the garden, but a minor one. 
  • Jaybee_16
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    Half my garden was owned by TfL and I paid an annual lease on the land. Increased in line with inflation annually.
    Same situation all along the street.
    Contract was similar to yours in relation to not erecting a shed or outbuilding but just about everybody in the street had a shed.
    I lived there 38 years, Had TfL round twice to look at the trees but they weren't bothered about my shed or greenhouse. 
    Trains were never a concern. The only time it was noticeable was Christmas Day or strike days when nothing ran.
  • Bookworm105
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    has your solicitor confirmed the Tf: has actually "inherited" the covenants given they date from the 1930s?

    undoubtedly very relevant at the time the land was being developed to ensure that only the "right sort" could live on that land, but 90 years later almost certainly utterly irrelevant but all very quaint
  • maxxpayne
    maxxpayne Posts: 143 Forumite
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    When my husband died I had to sell my listed grade II railway station, on the live East Coast Main Line.  We lived there for twenty odd years and you get used to the trains very quickly, and miss them when they stop running in snow etc.

    We were fully fenced, but only had the platform width of about five foot and the earth grass covered bank between us and the railway tracks.

    I'm not sure how near your property is to the line, but the new station owner has been telling people he has been quoted £30K to stop the trains for a period so that scaffolding can be put up lineside and roofing works commenced lineside.
    The rail line is 40 feet away from the boundary and f the garden and the house is about 110 feet away. 
  • maxxpayne
    maxxpayne Posts: 143 Forumite
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    has your solicitor confirmed the Tf: has actually "inherited" the covenants given they date from the 1930s?

    undoubtedly very relevant at the time the land was being developed to ensure that only the "right sort" could live on that land, but 90 years later almost certainly utterly irrelevant but all very quaint
    No, the solicitors haven’t confirmed anything yet. 
  • user1977
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    edited 14 February at 11:45PM
    I can't see the railway being relevant to the covenants. If you're not even neighbouring the line, Network Rail (if they even have title to enforce the covenants) aren't going to care what you do.
  • maxxpayne
    maxxpayne Posts: 143 Forumite
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    Jaybee_16 said:
    Half my garden was owned by TfL and I paid an annual lease on the land. Increased in line with inflation annually.
    Same situation all along the street.
    Contract was similar to yours in relation to not erecting a shed or outbuilding but just about everybody in the street had a shed.
    I lived there 38 years, Had TfL round twice to look at the trees but they weren't bothered about my shed or greenhouse. 
    Trains were never a concern. The only time it was noticeable was Christmas Day or strike days when nothing ran.
    How far was your property from the main line? Looks like ours would be 110 feet away from the house and about 40 feet from the garden fence. 


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