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Buying a property close to rail lines - anything to watch out for/clarify?

maxxpayne
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Hi There,
We just got offer accepted in a lovely house (I caused some stir with my other thread on this) in north London and I just downloaded the title register and plan from land registry website to try to find out if there's anything interesting about the property.
One thing that caught my attention is a number of restrictions placed on the property dating back to early 1930's, due to it being close to railway lines then owned by London
Passenger Transport Board and I assume currently TfL. I'll list the restrictions below.
Passenger Transport Board and I assume currently TfL. I'll list the restrictions below.
I'm not an expert in reading this document but looks like there's a number of additive clauses, so the last one (number 4) is the most relevant.
I assume it's my solicitors responsibility to read all this and advice me accordingly - but are there specific things I should instruct my solicitor on? For example:
- Will there be an issue building an out house/home office/summer house at the back of the house which is closest to the rail lines?
- Will there be an issue if I wanted to create a garage?
- Will there be an issue if we wanted to do a ground floor extension or a loft extension?
- Anything else?
Thanks!
And for those who love this type of stuff...
- The following are details of the covenants
contained in the Transfer dated 21 December 1934
referred to in the Charges Register:-
"The purchaser to the intent and so as to bind (so
far as practicable) the property hereby transferred
into whosesoever hands the same may come and to
benefit and protect the other parts of the said
Whitehouse Farm Estate now vested in the Board
or in purchasers from the Board but not so as to
render the purchaser personally liable in damages
for any breach of covenant committed after he shall
have parted with all interest in the premises in
respect of which such breach shall occur HEREBY
COVENANTS with the Board to observe and
perform the restrictions and stipulations set forth
in the Second Schedule hereto. - (a) No house shall be erected upon the property
hereby transferred which shall be of less prime cost
for labour and materials than £500 and a minimum
cubic capacity of 12,000 cubic feet.
(b) No house erected upon the property hereby
transferred shall be used for any other purpose
than as a private dwelling house or the professional.
residence of a solicitor Architect Medical
Practitioner or Dentist but so that the purchaser
shall be entitled to have upon the property hereby
transferred temporary offices or sheds for use in
connection with the development of the property
hereby transferred and shall be entitled together
with persons claiming title under him to carry on or
permit any business connected with such
development including that of an Estate Agent
Auctioneer Surveyor and Mortgage or Insurance
Broker or House Furnisher.
(c) No house shall be erected upon the property
hereby transferred otherwise than in accordance
with specifications drawings plans and elevations
reasonably previously approved by the Board's
Estate Agent and no building shall be commenced
upon the property hereby transferred until such
Estate Agent shall have given a certificate in writing
of such approval. The fees payable to the Board's
Estate Agent shall be the sum of £5.5.0. for the
reasonable approval of the plans specifications
drawaings and elevation of any one type of house.
No further certificates shall be required in respect
of any house erected upon the property sold which
shall be built in accordance with specifications
drawings plans and elevations already approved by
the Board's Estatae Agent." - (a) No house shall be erected upon that part of the
property hereby transferred which lies to the west
of the vendor's railway line which shall be of less
prime cost for labour and materials than Five
hundred pounds and a minimum cubic capacity of
Twelve thousand cubic feet.
(b) No house which has been or shall be erected
upon the property hereby transferred shall be used
for any other purpose than as a private
dwelling house or the professional residence of a
solicitor Architect Medical Practitioner or Dentist
but so that the Purchaser shall be entitled to have
upon the property hereby transferred temporary
offices or sheds for use in connection with the
development of the property hereby transferred
and shall be entitled together with persons
claiming title under him to carry on or permit any
business connected with such development
including that of an Estate Agent Auctioneer
Surveyor and Mortgage or Insurance Brokeror
House Furnisher.
(c) No house shall be erected upon the property
hereby transferred otherwise than in accordancae
with specifications drawings plans and elevations
reasonably previously approved by the Board's
Estate Agent and no building shall be commenced
upon the property hereby transferred until such
Estate Agent shall have given a certificate in writing
of such approval
(d) The fee payable to the Board's Estate Agent
shall be the sum of Five guineas for the reasonable
approval of the plans specifications drawings and
elevations of any one type of house and no further
certificates shall be required in respect of any
house erected on the property sold which shall be
built in accordance with specifications drawings
plans and elevations already approved by the
Board's Estate Agent." - "The sub-purchaser to the intent and so as to bind
(so far as practicable) the land hereby transferred
into whosesoever hands the same may come and to
benefit and protect the other parts of the
Whitehouse Farm Estate (of which the land hereby
transferred forms part) now vested in the Vendor
the purchaser or in other purchasers from the
vendor but not so as to render the sub-purchasers
personally liable for damages for any breach of
covenant after they shall have parted with all
interest in the land in respect of which such breach
shall occur hereby covenant with the vendor to
observe and perform the following restrictions and
stipulations:-
(a) No houses shall be erected upon the land
hereby transferred which shall be of less prime cost
for labour and materials than Four hundred and
twenty pounds and a minimum cubic capacity of
ten thousand cubic feet
(b) Proper boundary walls or substantial fences
surrounding each plot upon the land hereby
transferred shall be made and maintained by the
sub-purchasers or its successors in title such walls
or fences to be of such height and design as shall
be reasonably prescribed by the vendor or his
(c) No bricks or tiles shall at any time be made or
burnt nor shall any clay or lime be burnt on the land
hereby transferred nor shall any clay or gravel be
dug thereout except such as may be necessary for
the making of foundations and no operative
machinery shall at any time be fixed or set thereon
or in any building to be erected thereon except
such as may be reasonably necessary for the
execution of the said approved works.
(d) No temporary buildings of any kind or caravans
or huts on wheels or roundabouts shall at any time
be erected or placed on the land hereby transferred
other than sheds or workshops to be used only for
the execution of the approved works or for works
incidental to the erection of permanent buildings
on the land hereby transferred.
(e) No house erected upon the land hereby
transferred shall be used for any other purpose
than as a private dwellinghouse or the professional
residence of a solicitor architect medical
practitioner or dentist but so that the subpurchasers shall be entitled to have upon the land
hereby transferred temporary offices for use in
connection with the development of the land
hereby transferred in manner herein provided and
shall be entitled together with persons claiming
title under them to carry or or permit any business
connected with such development during the
course thereof including that of Estate Agents
Auctioneers Surveyors and Mortgage or Insurance
Brokers or House Furnishers.
(f) No placard poster or display board shall be
erected or exhibited on the land hereby transferred
save such as shall have been previously approved
by the vendor's surveyor but so that no such
placard poster or display board shall be larger than
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Comments
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When my husband died I had to sell my listed grade II railway station, on the live East Coast Main Line. We lived there for twenty odd years and you get used to the trains very quickly, and miss them when they stop running in snow etc.
We were fully fenced, but only had the platform width of about five foot and the earth grass covered bank between us and the railway tracks.
I'm not sure how near your property is to the line, but the new station owner has been telling people he has been quoted £30K to stop the trains for a period so that scaffolding can be put up lineside and roofing works commenced lineside.£216 saved 24 October 20141 -
A friend lived right by a railway line, it was a quiet line but when a train did come I found myself humming "In the middle of the House". there are certainly much worst noises than a train (my humming is one of them).
Let's Be Careful Out There1 -
maxxpayne said:4(d) No temporary buildings of any kind or caravans
or huts on wheels or roundabouts shall at any time
be erected or placed on the land hereby transferred
other than sheds or workshops to be used only for
the execution of the approved works or for works
incidental to the erection of permanent buildings
on the land hereby transferred.This section of the covenant appears to exclude any shed or temporary structure (e.g. a summer house) to be erected now that the house has been completed. Your solicitor would be able to confirm.One would suppose that you could make an application to TfL enclosing a fee of five guineas (£5.25 in modern money I think). Or you could just put the shed up and accept that you may be instructed to remove it at some point in the future (I suspect a very small risk).Her courage will change the world.
Treasure the moments that you have. Savour them for as long as you can for they will never come back again.2 -
I have a commuter ( and occasionally freight) line at the end of the garden. I do not remember it being mentioned in any of the paperwork when buying the house ( although it was a long time ago) or any restrictions/covenants.
I think though Network Rail have some statutory powers in case you have a massive tree causing problems, or something like that.
Noise wise, it still can be an issue if you are in the garden, but a minor one.1 -
Half my garden was owned by TfL and I paid an annual lease on the land. Increased in line with inflation annually.
Same situation all along the street.
Contract was similar to yours in relation to not erecting a shed or outbuilding but just about everybody in the street had a shed.
I lived there 38 years, Had TfL round twice to look at the trees but they weren't bothered about my shed or greenhouse.
Trains were never a concern. The only time it was noticeable was Christmas Day or strike days when nothing ran.0 -
has your solicitor confirmed the Tf: has actually "inherited" the covenants given they date from the 1930s?
undoubtedly very relevant at the time the land was being developed to ensure that only the "right sort" could live on that land, but 90 years later almost certainly utterly irrelevant but all very quaint1 -
youth_leader said:When my husband died I had to sell my listed grade II railway station, on the live East Coast Main Line. We lived there for twenty odd years and you get used to the trains very quickly, and miss them when they stop running in snow etc.
We were fully fenced, but only had the platform width of about five foot and the earth grass covered bank between us and the railway tracks.
I'm not sure how near your property is to the line, but the new station owner has been telling people he has been quoted £30K to stop the trains for a period so that scaffolding can be put up lineside and roofing works commenced lineside.0 -
has your solicitor confirmed the Tf: has actually "inherited" the covenants given they date from the 1930s?
undoubtedly very relevant at the time the land was being developed to ensure that only the "right sort" could live on that land, but 90 years later almost certainly utterly irrelevant but all very quaint0 -
I can't see the railway being relevant to the covenants. If you're not even neighbouring the line, Network Rail (if they even have title to enforce the covenants) aren't going to care what you do.1
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Jaybee_16 said:Half my garden was owned by TfL and I paid an annual lease on the land. Increased in line with inflation annually.
Same situation all along the street.
Contract was similar to yours in relation to not erecting a shed or outbuilding but just about everybody in the street had a shed.
I lived there 38 years, Had TfL round twice to look at the trees but they weren't bothered about my shed or greenhouse.
Trains were never a concern. The only time it was noticeable was Christmas Day or strike days when nothing ran.0
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