Nationwide not allowing National Lottery payments (Merged)

perc
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edited 17 February at 2:31PM in Budgeting & bank accounts
For about four years now I've run a Euro Millions syndicate with colleagues at my work. We only do it when the jacks over £85m and we have about 120 people in each one. 

I back with nationwide, and they have contacted me and told me that this could be unlawful and "unfortunately, none of our accounts would support this activity as it is outside the scope of what Nationwide allows, in order to keep our members safe. We therefore continue to ask that you please cease the activity on this account."

I obviously do not run a raffle or private lottery.

Have other people come across this, and what bank accounts permit you to run a national lottery syndicate?
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  • perc
    perc Posts: 1,040 Forumite
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    For about four years now I've run a Euro Millions syndicate with colleagues at my work. We only do it when the jacks over £85m and we have about 120 people in each one. 

    I back with nationwide, and they have contacted me and told me that this could be unlawful and "unfortunately, none of our accounts would support this activity as it is outside the scope of what Nationwide allows, in order to keep our members safe. We therefore continue to ask that you please cease the activity on this account."

    I obviously do not run a raffle or private lottery.

    Have other people come across this, and what bank accounts permit you to run a national lottery syndicate?
    "Those who try to make sense of the world are divided into four categories: scientists, theologians, philosophers, and fools. Correction ... make that one category with three sub-divisions" -- Carlo Kensada
  • la531983
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    edited 17 February at 2:31PM
    So what are you actually doing on this bank account? People pay money into it, and then you use the debit card associated with the account to buy National Lottery tickets?

    Is it the ONLY thing you use it for?


  • la531983
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    This is a duplicate of your other thread so will just paste the reply in...

    So what are you actually doing on this bank account? People pay money into it, and then you use the debit card associated with the account to buy National Lottery tickets?

    Is it the ONLY thing you use it for?
  • penners324
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    Looks like business transactions I suspect. Lots of different people paying the same amount.
  • la531983
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    Aye I didnt see the 120 number in the opening post. Thats a lot of people, I would maybe start collecting cash off them instead.
  • Ayr_Rage
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    edited 17 February at 2:31PM
    Only one thing to do, stop using the account for the lottery or risk it being closed.

    You are obviously not running the account in accordance with Nationwide's Ts and Cs.
  • perc
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    edited 17 February at 2:31PM
    la531983 said:
    So what are you actually doing on this bank account? People pay money into it, and then you use the debit card associated with the account to buy National Lottery tickets?

    Is it the ONLY thing you use it for?


    Yes, no other transactions on the account. It is only used for the syndicate to avoid confusion.
    "Those who try to make sense of the world are divided into four categories: scientists, theologians, philosophers, and fools. Correction ... make that one category with three sub-divisions" -- Carlo Kensada
  • M25
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    perc said:
    For about four years now I've run a Euro Millions syndicate with colleagues at my work. We only do it when the jacks over £85m and we have about 120 people in each one. 

    That made me laugh. Isn't that the same as the mob used to do with the numbers?

    I'm surprised you've not had the police at your door.
  • Joolski
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    edited 17 February at 2:31PM
    They probably don't like that many different people paying money into your account...the banks are all really watchful of money laundering etc now, and maybe this kind of activity throws up some kind of red flag to them? 

    I've always found Nationwide to be pretty helpful, and would be inclined to ring them and explain what you're doing and ask them if they have any alternative suggestions or alternative account that you could use  (you may have done that already, in which case sorry, I don't have any alternative suggestions).
  • eyeballpaul
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    edited 17 February at 2:31PM
    Ask National Lottery who they recommend?
    thanks to all posters

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