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Cash Buyers

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  • ReadySteadyPop
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    i used to be a house flipper always cash bar 2 times

    makes no difference to the timeframe involved

    i mostly bought probate propertys ,so cash buyer no chain either end
    offer accepted to keys 4 months minumum and i have all proof of purchase /paperwork / video calls/messages done same day .

    its the conveyencers who are slow




    Can you still make money "flipping" property?

    no
     essex and london prices have risen too much
    i paid stamp duty  around the 1.5 k to 2.5k per property usually up to 2016
    capital gains relief taken away
    price of materials gone up
    price of trades i am not good at or cannot do like plastering /electrician have doubled
    i specalised in bungalows which now fetch a premium
    my other area is scotland west coast which is fine for rentals but the area has slow capital growth


    Interesting thanks.
  • I didn't even know people made a distinction. I've been a cash buyer on this and my previous, and will be again very soon, but I've never told a seller nor have I ever been asked. Why would they care, other than avoiding the potential for a mortgage offer to be refused, but I can't see how that's worth a discount?
  • AskAsk
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    edited 12 March at 2:05PM
    I didn't even know people made a distinction. I've been a cash buyer on this and my previous, and will be again very soon, but I've never told a seller nor have I ever been asked. Why would they care, other than avoiding the potential for a mortgage offer to be refused, but I can't see how that's worth a discount?
    doesn't make sense what you say as the EA will always ask how you are going to fund the purchase so i don't understand how you can say you never told anyone.

    a cashbuyer tend to offer less than someone who has something to sell or who has to raise a mortgage.  it means that the sale will go through quickly and are less likely to have the mortgage turned down or the loan being less than what the buyer needs to buy the property.

    however, in these days of strict ALM, i find cash buyers can fall into the proof of funds stumble so to me, a cash buyer isn't as safe as it used to be, but if you are selling a property that needs to be refurbished or has some sort of issue that needs work, then a cash buyer is a better bet as the mortgage lender may not lend enough to fund the purchase when they come to do the mortgage valuation.
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    edited 12 March at 2:05PM
    AskAsk said:
    I didn't even know people made a distinction. I've been a cash buyer on this and my previous, and will be again very soon, but I've never told a seller nor have I ever been asked. Why would they care, other than avoiding the potential for a mortgage offer to be refused, but I can't see how that's worth a discount?
    doesn't make sense what you say as the EA will always ask how you are going to fund the purchase so i don't understand how you can say you never told anyone.

    a cashbuyer tend to offer less than someone who has something to sell or who has to raise a mortgage.  it means that the sale will go through quickly and are less likely to have the mortgage turned down or the loan being less than what the buyer needs to buy the property.

    however, in these days of strict ALM, i find cash buyers can fall into the proof of funds stumble so to me, a cash buyer isn't as safe as it used to be, but if you are selling a property that needs to be refurbished or has some sort of issue that needs work, then a cash buyer is a better bet as the mortgage lender may not lend enough to fund the purchase when they come to do the mortgage valuation.
    I meant I never told a seller, nor been told similar by a buyer. Of course, you have to show evidence of funds to the EA.

    Maybe I'll try offering less and telling people this time around, although personally I wouldn't knock anything off knowing that the potential buyer was a cash buyer.
  • Hoenir
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    edited 12 March at 2:05PM
    AskAsk said:
    I didn't even know people made a distinction. I've been a cash buyer on this and my previous, and will be again very soon, but I've never told a seller nor have I ever been asked. Why would they care, other than avoiding the potential for a mortgage offer to be refused, but I can't see how that's worth a discount?

    a cashbuyer tend to offer less than someone who has something to sell or who has to raise a mortgage.  it means that the sale will go through quickly and are less likely to have the mortgage turned down or the loan being less than what the buyer needs to buy the property.


    If someone has their ducks in order. Mortgages can be approved fairly promptly. Cash buyers aren't necessarily time advantaged. Though they seem to think it is. 
  • ReadySteadyPop
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    edited 12 March at 2:05PM
    Hoenir said:
    AskAsk said:
    I didn't even know people made a distinction. I've been a cash buyer on this and my previous, and will be again very soon, but I've never told a seller nor have I ever been asked. Why would they care, other than avoiding the potential for a mortgage offer to be refused, but I can't see how that's worth a discount?

    a cashbuyer tend to offer less than someone who has something to sell or who has to raise a mortgage.  it means that the sale will go through quickly and are less likely to have the mortgage turned down or the loan being less than what the buyer needs to buy the property.


    If someone has their ducks in order. Mortgages can be approved fairly promptly. Cash buyers aren't necessarily time advantaged. Though they seem to think it is. 
    Mortgage lenders are making down-valuations though as the market weakens, with a cash buyer you might have a chance that they stick to their original offer.
  • AskAsk
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    edited 12 March at 2:05PM
    Hoenir said:
    AskAsk said:
    I didn't even know people made a distinction. I've been a cash buyer on this and my previous, and will be again very soon, but I've never told a seller nor have I ever been asked. Why would they care, other than avoiding the potential for a mortgage offer to be refused, but I can't see how that's worth a discount?

    a cashbuyer tend to offer less than someone who has something to sell or who has to raise a mortgage.  it means that the sale will go through quickly and are less likely to have the mortgage turned down or the loan being less than what the buyer needs to buy the property.


    If someone has their ducks in order. Mortgages can be approved fairly promptly. Cash buyers aren't necessarily time advantaged. Though they seem to think it is. 
    banks can devalue a property and ask for more specialist surveys.  this takes time.
  • incus432
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    edited 12 March at 2:05PM
    I didn't even know people made a distinction. I've been a cash buyer on this and my previous, and will be again very soon, but I've never told a seller nor have I ever been asked. Why would they care, other than avoiding the potential for a mortgage offer to be refused, but I can't see how that's worth a discount?

    It makes a huge difference.  Knowing a buyer can proceed without needing to sell a house first, with all the associated risks of a chain is a a big plus.  Have always asked and checked.  And 'cash buyer' means someone with money in the bank not - as some EAs try to claim -  someone who has a property to sell .
  • ReadySteadyPop
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    edited 12 March at 2:05PM
    incus432 said:
    I didn't even know people made a distinction. I've been a cash buyer on this and my previous, and will be again very soon, but I've never told a seller nor have I ever been asked. Why would they care, other than avoiding the potential for a mortgage offer to be refused, but I can't see how that's worth a discount?

    It makes a huge difference.  Knowing a buyer can proceed without needing to sell a house first, with all the associated risks of a chain is a a big plus.  Have always asked and checked.  And 'cash buyer' means someone with money in the bank not - as some EAs try to claim -  someone who has a property to sell .
    Exactly, very important difference, too many people put a house on the market with a price tag in mind and start offering on the next house as if that is already cash in the bank, only to find that the market doesn`t agree with their valuation.
  • ReadySteadyPop
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    edited 12 March at 2:05PM
    AskAsk said:
    Hoenir said:
    AskAsk said:
    I didn't even know people made a distinction. I've been a cash buyer on this and my previous, and will be again very soon, but I've never told a seller nor have I ever been asked. Why would they care, other than avoiding the potential for a mortgage offer to be refused, but I can't see how that's worth a discount?

    a cashbuyer tend to offer less than someone who has something to sell or who has to raise a mortgage.  it means that the sale will go through quickly and are less likely to have the mortgage turned down or the loan being less than what the buyer needs to buy the property.


    If someone has their ducks in order. Mortgages can be approved fairly promptly. Cash buyers aren't necessarily time advantaged. Though they seem to think it is. 
    banks can devalue a property and ask for more specialist surveys.  this takes time.
    Yes, banks are being ultra cautious now I believe.
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