Rental Property Standards Seem Low

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RHemmings

I just wish to point out that I was a long term renter. I spent 15 years in a house that was shabby when we moved in and nothing was redecorated in that entire time. But, the rent was cheap and the landlord did what was needed for safety. 

TroubledTarts

RHemmings said:

I just wish to point out that I was a long term renter. I spent 15 years in a house that was shabby when we moved in and nothing was redecorated in that entire time. But, the rent was cheap and the landlord did what was needed for safety. 

That's an interesting point do renters expect landlords to redecorate for them every (x) amount of years and replace carpets every (x) amount of years.

RHemmings

TroubledTarts said:

RHemmings said:

I just wish to point out that I was a long term renter. I spent 15 years in a house that was shabby when we moved in and nothing was redecorated in that entire time. But, the rent was cheap and the landlord did what was needed for safety. 

That's an interesting point do renters expect landlords to redecorate for them every (x) amount of years and replace carpets every (x) amount of years.

I didn't. I would have expected that if I was paying more rent. 

gazfocus

TroubledTarts said:

RHemmings said:

I just wish to point out that I was a long term renter. I spent 15 years in a house that was shabby when we moved in and nothing was redecorated in that entire time. But, the rent was cheap and the landlord did what was needed for safety. 

That's an interesting point do renters expect landlords to redecorate for them every (x) amount of years and replace carpets every (x) amount of years.

Depends…one property we rented, the landlord would not allow us to decorate at all. In that scenario, I would expect them to decorate every few years to freshen the place (or allow us to get it done). 

TroubledTarts

RHemmings said:

TroubledTarts said:

RHemmings said:

I just wish to point out that I was a long term renter. I spent 15 years in a house that was shabby when we moved in and nothing was redecorated in that entire time. But, the rent was cheap and the landlord did what was needed for safety. 

That's an interesting point do renters expect landlords to redecorate for them every (x) amount of years and replace carpets every (x) amount of years.

I didn't. I would have expected that if I was paying more rent. 

What does that equate to £100-£200 cheaper per month than the average rent an ld you would crack on and do things yourself?

TroubledTarts

gazfocus said:

TroubledTarts said:

RHemmings said:

I just wish to point out that I was a long term renter. I spent 15 years in a house that was shabby when we moved in and nothing was redecorated in that entire time. But, the rent was cheap and the landlord did what was needed for safety. 

That's an interesting point do renters expect landlords to redecorate for them every (x) amount of years and replace carpets every (x) amount of years.

Depends…one property we rented, the landlord would not allow us to decorate at all. In that scenario, I would expect them to decorate every few years to freshen the place (or allow us to get it done). 

That seems reasonablez I don't think we do our own home more than every 5 years but I think it's clear from this thread everyone's expectations would be different.

I wonder if this sort of things needs to go into tenancy documents.

Herzlos

TroubledTarts said:

RHemmings said:

I just wish to point out that I was a long term renter. I spent 15 years in a house that was shabby when we moved in and nothing was redecorated in that entire time. But, the rent was cheap and the landlord did what was needed for safety. 

That's an interesting point do renters expect landlords to redecorate for them every (x) amount of years and replace carpets every (x) amount of years.

I'd expect it to be in decent condition when I move in and then come up again if I've been there long enough. How that works would be down to an agreement with the landlord and tenant.

A good landlord would presumably want to arrange the work themselves to ensure the quality for future rentals.

caprikid1

RHemmings said:

TroubledTarts said:

Maybe some of the reasons

40-50 applicants per rental property in high demand areas.

Lots of BTL Landlords selling up and leaving the market increasing demand further

Rents at an all time high and so far only going one way but then so are BTL rates so less profit so they don't bother with upkeep

None of these are excuses and I agree with comments above that a grotty property in poor repair should be avoided as it should sound alarm bells.

It's just the rental stock is decreasing and demand is increasing so some landlords will make the most out of this.

And this is precisely why the rental market can't be left to run itself. As, if supply and demand puts landlords in the driving seat, some landlords will rent out substandard (if not totally unfit for habitation) properties. 

It is precisely all the intervention that has encouraged Landlords to exit making the situation worse. Regulating private landlords to death is fine so long as the state and the big coorporations pick up the slack with quality affordable rentals. Corporations just charge more than private landlords and local authority's have got no money or inclination to pick up the slack.

Destroyed Rental Sector... Solution more regulation.

Its like the American answer to gun crime.... more guns !

RHemmings

TroubledTarts said:

RHemmings said:

TroubledTarts said:

RHemmings said:

I just wish to point out that I was a long term renter. I spent 15 years in a house that was shabby when we moved in and nothing was redecorated in that entire time. But, the rent was cheap and the landlord did what was needed for safety. 

That's an interesting point do renters expect landlords to redecorate for them every (x) amount of years and replace carpets every (x) amount of years.

I didn't. I would have expected that if I was paying more rent. 

What does that equate to £100-£200 cheaper per month than the average rent an ld you would crack on and do things yourself?

I never bothered doing things myself. We worked on the garden a bit, but I suspect we didn't pay out more than about £100 or so in total over about 15 years. When I moved out (to a nearby and perhaps a little bit better property my rent jumped £350 a month. That was after a £100 rental increase. the only one in 15 years, which had been some years ago. Maybe it was £100 cheaper than the typical rent at the start, but it got to be more. I think I painted one bit where the paint got marked up. Otherwise, not much really.