Do I report my sister??? power attorney forged signature?

MrShifter1852

In sept 2022 my father who was 91 at the time and i went to a solicitors to have him draw a POA registration up for myself all agreed and discussed with his social worker . 1 week later my father informed me my sister and her friend attended his home and spent two hours a attempting to get him to sign a POA form printed of the OPG website (which is the way many people are doing DIY POAs now )   for her for both types HW an PF, He told  me categorically he did not sign them and suggested to me that she and her witness decided to sign them. He also stated both POA forms were presented to my mother. As my father told me the next day of the attempt to gain his signature i advised him we go to the solicitor again to have a legal letter sent to OPG that any attempt by my sister to register a poa was not his wish and by the way my siter hates me we never speak ) . I also rang the OPG  and sent emails trying to stop this attempt not least that they contained potentially forged signatures. OPG wrote back stating they could not investigate my concerns as the POAs had not been registered yet. ("Dad does not want you to register"!  it i wrote back)
months went by and believed they had taken notice even though i heard nothing from anyone and as dad didn't receive a the letter from them stating they had registered it form him I considered the matter closed dad was happy, Unfortunately  his health got worse and reluctantly i had to agree to him going into a care home in july 2023
In march 2024 i heard the OPG had registered my sisters POAs. Obviously I HIT the roof and threw a barrage of complaints at them.it took approx 2 months to get the OPG to admit they failed to investigate my original concerns and eventually revoke the POAs for my sister. In that 60 day period prior to revolking she managed to lodge her POA on everything.... doctors, care homes, banks, investment companies the lot........so take this on board the OPG register POAs for dad appointing me as solo decision maker,,,the OPG now register a separate POA appointing my sister as solo POA Which is unbelievable,, "yes one poa with more than one attorneys named who can act either separately or jointly as the form states is fine and can work but two independent POAs  with solo authority could never work.  
So its April 24 and i am calling dads banks investment companies etc to tell them not to accept any attempt to lodge POAs from my sister. these organisations tell me  they  cant speak with me..Why i ask? well your not the POA on the account, I am i shout i have been for months. YOU guessed it she has managed to get financial organisations to remove me!!!!! not a letter or phone call from any one of them to ask "is this your fathers wish"?... 
I sent them all the grovelling letter I received from from OPG admitting fault and revoking her POA but its a nightmare trying now to call all the banks etc 
I now turn my attention back to the OPG and start asking why they completely failed to investigate my report of a forged signature before registering POAs for a venerable now 93 yrs adult. I Ask for a copy of the original forms to see for myself the signatures, You have to put in a SAR (Subject access request)  I am told,, which i do,,,,3 months later last week in fact i receive a copy of the POA forms my sister attempted to get father to sign.. And as i suspected and as i had informed the OPG in 2022  both have forged signatures one signature is an attempt at dads name the other a squiggle,
bare in mind one  week earlier in Aug 2022 my father signed at a solicitors, forms appointing me.   so OPG would have had my forms with legit signatures sent recorded delivery by the solicitor and 1 week later in pigeon post they would have received the forged attempt. 
now I have the proof do i report my sister ? and her friend who played  witness to her attempts to the Police???, for forging a legal government document and Do i inform banks etc where my parents have accounts about this??Even though i stopped any money being taken and any fraud was stopped, this was not a harmless mistake— is this seen as an intentional and illegal attempt to take control of finances through forgery.

Emmia

Yes, you should report her.

lincroft1710

If you do report her to the police (who may or may not be interested) what outcome are you expecting?

MrShifter1852

lincroft1710 said:

If you do report her to the police (who may or may not be interested) what outcome are you expecting?

will i regret not reporting it if i find out later that other things have been forged.....wills etc...

Emmia

MrShifter1852 said:

lincroft1710 said:

If you do report her to the police (who may or may not be interested) what outcome are you expecting?

will i regret not reporting it if i find out later that other things have been forged.....wills etc...

The risk must be that you won't have a relationship with your sister - so if that's not a barrier, then I would report her activities.

Would you regret not reporting earlier if further fraud happens?

MrShifter1852

as i have only just attained proof of the forged POA attorney forms no one would listen to me so any earlier reports fell on deaf ears even the police said they could do nothing when i told them of my suspicions back in 2022 when i know the crime with a friend occurred... So anyone with nefarious reasons wanting a power of attorney for a lonely venerable adult can feel free to forge one as OPG don't check the signature is that of the donor. 

lincroft1710

MrShifter1852 said:

lincroft1710 said:

If you do report her to the police (who may or may not be interested) what outcome are you expecting?

will i regret not reporting it if i find out later that other things have been forged.....wills etc...

That is not an answer to my question


Are you hoping/expecting her to be charged with fraud?

elsien

MrShifter1852 said:

as i have only just attained proof of the forged POA attorney forms no one would listen to me so any earlier reports fell on deaf ears even the police said they could do nothing when i told them of my suspicions back in 2022 when i know the crime with a friend occurred... So anyone with nefarious reasons wanting a power of attorney for a lonely venerable adult can feel free to forge one as OPG don't check the signature is that of the donor. 

Vulnerable, not venerable. Might be your phone’s predictive text but it’s important to get right if you are doing anything official. 

Although I wouldn’t hold my breath about the police charging anyone with fraud. 

Slinky

You say your sister hates you and you never speak, so you don't have a functioning relationship with her anyway. Your father doesn't appear to trust her since he didn't want to sign the POA for her when pressurised to do so.  

IMO you should report her to the Police in order to protect your father, since she will quite clearly do anything she can to put herself into a position that your father, who's choice it is, and who's money it is, does not want her to have.

My friend's sister-in-law abused her POA and cleared out her mother's bank accounts, depriving her own children of their inheritance. The care home alerted my friend's husband to what they thought was happening. Not sure if the police were involved, but the mother ended up paying the children £5 a month until she died a short while later, a pittance of what she had taken.

sheramber

Check out Ageuk about elder abuse. 

pinkshoes

MrShifter1852 said:

as i have only just attained proof of the forged POA attorney forms no one would listen to me so any earlier reports fell on deaf ears even the police said they could do nothing when i told them of my suspicions back in 2022 when i know the crime with a friend occurred... So anyone with nefarious reasons wanting a power of attorney for a lonely venerable adult can feel free to forge one as OPG don't check the signature is that of the donor. 

Sounds like you don't have much of a relationship with your sister anyway, so absolutely report her to the police for fraud. This sounds like elder abuse as mentioned above.

I'd also be digging into WHY she was trying to do this - for financial gain? Is she in debt? I'd be worried about what else she has forged signatures onto. Does your dad have a will? I'd check that hasn't been changed too!