Smart meter, is it worth it?

Betamax_man

TroubledTarts said:

Betamax_man said:

TroubledTarts said:

Betamax_man said:

Keep_pedalling said:

What feed in tariff do you actually get? If the export part of your payments are below 15p pkWh it may be worth switching to SEG payments. We get 15p per kWh for our SEG payments, so we are better off charging the car at 7p pkWh at night than charging from the solar panels.

You can’t do this without a smart meter. 

Thanks for your reply.  To answer your question, the FiT was set at around 40p I believe, so will not be looking to change this.  It was set by a third party company and the scheme originator.  It doesn't matter how much electricity I use, meter for solar generation is in the loft.  My mechanical meter just stops turning when the sun shines if I am using less than solar generation. 

But does it go backwards?

If it does you don't have to get a smart meter and that's your choice (editrd to make sense with some Google search below which the OP can check for themselves)

Moderators please note I got my information from a Google search to check I was not breaking any forum rules and not promoting any illegal activity (I have reported the comment below mine with this same explanation and some extra information for you to consider)

The meter does go backwards 'till it reaches it's stop, then stays still.

To be clear I wasn't suggesting you do something illegal btw just it's your choice and from my search I could not find a legal requirement to swap your analogue meter if after a solar install it is going backwards.

There were many that did go backwards, but mine does not.  I often wondered how many people who had solar fitted and never said anything to their supplier when the meter went backwards.  One of my neighbours meter did go backwards, but he informed his supplier, who promptly changed his meter.  I suppose morals come into play.

TroubledTarts

Betamax_man said:

TroubledTarts said:

Betamax_man said:

TroubledTarts said:

Betamax_man said:

Keep_pedalling said:

What feed in tariff do you actually get? If the export part of your payments are below 15p pkWh it may be worth switching to SEG payments. We get 15p per kWh for our SEG payments, so we are better off charging the car at 7p pkWh at night than charging from the solar panels.

You can’t do this without a smart meter. 

Thanks for your reply.  To answer your question, the FiT was set at around 40p I believe, so will not be looking to change this.  It was set by a third party company and the scheme originator.  It doesn't matter how much electricity I use, meter for solar generation is in the loft.  My mechanical meter just stops turning when the sun shines if I am using less than solar generation. 

But does it go backwards?

If it does you don't have to get a smart meter and that's your choice (editrd to make sense with some Google search below which the OP can check for themselves)

Moderators please note I got my information from a Google search to check I was not breaking any forum rules and not promoting any illegal activity (I have reported the comment below mine with this same explanation and some extra information for you to consider)

The meter does go backwards 'till it reaches it's stop, then stays still.

To be clear I wasn't suggesting you do something illegal btw just it's your choice and from my search I could not find a legal requirement to swap your analogue meter if after a solar install it is going backwards.

There were many that did go backwards, but mine does not.  I often wondered how many people who had solar fitted and never said anything to their supplier when the meter went backwards.  One of my neighbours meter did go backwards, but he informed his supplier, who promptly changed his meter.  I suppose morals come into play.

Indeed I often wonder as our small village have many ancient solar installs and to be honest they were happening before the big sm as rt meter rollout so how many had all that free energy and a meter that went backwards and how many still do.

The mind boggles 

Spoonie_Turtle

TroubledTarts said:

Betamax_man said:

Keep_pedalling said:

What feed in tariff do you actually get? If the export part of your payments are below 15p pkWh it may be worth switching to SEG payments. We get 15p per kWh for our SEG payments, so we are better off charging the car at 7p pkWh at night than charging from the solar panels.

You can’t do this without a smart meter. 

Thanks for your reply.  To answer your question, the FiT was set at around 40p I believe, so will not be looking to change this.  It was set by a third party company and the scheme originator.  It doesn't matter how much electricity I use, meter for solar generation is in the loft.  My mechanical meter just stops turning when the sun shines if I am using less than solar generation. 

Moderators please note I got my information from a Google search to check I was not breaking any forum rules and not promoting any illegal activity (I have reported the comment below mine with this same explanation and some extra information for you to consider)

Google AI Overview is notoriously rubbish*, it scrapes the web for data (including comments under articles, if you've seen how dreadful those can be) and throws it all together, it doesn't evaluate the reliability of the sources of any of the data.  It is honestly worse than a misinformed person, because at least with a person you stand a chance of correcting them when you show them true, reliable information from a reputable source.

*If you heard about AI returning results saying there's a recommended daily intake of rocks, or putting glue on pizza to make the sauce thicker, etc., that was Google's AI overview.

[Note: no intentions of derailing the thread, it's just important for people to know that for accurate, reliable information they need to dig into the search results to find the actual answer because the AI overview cannot be trusted.]

TroubledTarts

Spoonie_Turtle said:

TroubledTarts said:

Betamax_man said:

Keep_pedalling said:

What feed in tariff do you actually get? If the export part of your payments are below 15p pkWh it may be worth switching to SEG payments. We get 15p per kWh for our SEG payments, so we are better off charging the car at 7p pkWh at night than charging from the solar panels.

You can’t do this without a smart meter. 

Thanks for your reply.  To answer your question, the FiT was set at around 40p I believe, so will not be looking to change this.  It was set by a third party company and the scheme originator.  It doesn't matter how much electricity I use, meter for solar generation is in the loft.  My mechanical meter just stops turning when the sun shines if I am using less than solar generation. 

Moderators please note I got my information from a Google search to check I was not breaking any forum rules and not promoting any illegal activity (I have reported the comment below mine with this same explanation and some extra information for you to consider)

Google AI Overview is notoriously rubbish*, it scrapes the web for data (including comments under articles, if you've seen how dreadful those can be) and throws it all together, it doesn't evaluate the reliability of the sources of any of the data.  It is honestly worse than a misinformed person, because at least with a person you stand a chance of correcting them when you show them true, reliable information from a reputable source.

*If you heard about AI returning results saying there's a recommended daily intake of rocks, or putting glue on pizza to make the sauce thicker, etc., that was Google's AI overview.

[Note: no intentions of derailing the thread, it's just important for people to know that for accurate, reliable information they need to dig into the search results to find the actual answer because the AI overview cannot be trusted.]

Yeah I was trying to find the law not suppliers views of the law with their T&C's but the actual clear law on this for my own knowledge, so far failing with searches.

This might actually become relevant as the property next door is soon to come up for sale and we know it has a very old solar install and potentially and old dumb meter which could be interesting.

QrizB

TroubledTarts said:

Spoonie_Turtle said:

TroubledTarts said:

Betamax_man said:

Keep_pedalling said:

What feed in tariff do you actually get? If the export part of your payments are below 15p pkWh it may be worth switching to SEG payments. We get 15p per kWh for our SEG payments, so we are better off charging the car at 7p pkWh at night than charging from the solar panels.

You can’t do this without a smart meter. 

Thanks for your reply.  To answer your question, the FiT was set at around 40p I believe, so will not be looking to change this.  It was set by a third party company and the scheme originator.  It doesn't matter how much electricity I use, meter for solar generation is in the loft.  My mechanical meter just stops turning when the sun shines if I am using less than solar generation. 

Moderators please note I got my information from a Google search to check I was not breaking any forum rules and not promoting any illegal activity (I have reported the comment below mine with this same explanation and some extra information for you to consider)

Google AI Overview is notoriously rubbish*, it scrapes the web for data (including comments under articles, if you've seen how dreadful those can be) and throws it all together, it doesn't evaluate the reliability of the sources of any of the data.  It is honestly worse than a misinformed person, because at least with a person you stand a chance of correcting them when you show them true, reliable information from a reputable source.

*If you heard about AI returning results saying there's a recommended daily intake of rocks, or putting glue on pizza to make the sauce thicker, etc., that was Google's AI overview.

[Note: no intentions of derailing the thread, it's just important for people to know that for accurate, reliable information they need to dig into the search results to find the actual answer because the AI overview cannot be trusted.]

Yeah I was trying to find the law not suppliers views of the law with their T&C's but the actual clear law on this for my own knowledge, so far failing with searches.
This might actually become relevant as the property next door is soon to come up for sale and we know it has a very old solar install and potentially and old dumb meter which could be interesting.

Section 13 of the Theft Act 1968.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1968/60/section/13

I had to break off my search earlier before finding that. Posted Octopus's T&C as I'd already found them.

TroubledTarts

QrizB said:

TroubledTarts said:

Spoonie_Turtle said:

TroubledTarts said:

Betamax_man said:

Keep_pedalling said:

What feed in tariff do you actually get? If the export part of your payments are below 15p pkWh it may be worth switching to SEG payments. We get 15p per kWh for our SEG payments, so we are better off charging the car at 7p pkWh at night than charging from the solar panels.

You can’t do this without a smart meter. 

Thanks for your reply.  To answer your question, the FiT was set at around 40p I believe, so will not be looking to change this.  It was set by a third party company and the scheme originator.  It doesn't matter how much electricity I use, meter for solar generation is in the loft.  My mechanical meter just stops turning when the sun shines if I am using less than solar generation. 

Moderators please note I got my information from a Google search to check I was not breaking any forum rules and not promoting any illegal activity (I have reported the comment below mine with this same explanation and some extra information for you to consider)

Google AI Overview is notoriously rubbish*, it scrapes the web for data (including comments under articles, if you've seen how dreadful those can be) and throws it all together, it doesn't evaluate the reliability of the sources of any of the data.  It is honestly worse than a misinformed person, because at least with a person you stand a chance of correcting them when you show them true, reliable information from a reputable source.

*If you heard about AI returning results saying there's a recommended daily intake of rocks, or putting glue on pizza to make the sauce thicker, etc., that was Google's AI overview.

[Note: no intentions of derailing the thread, it's just important for people to know that for accurate, reliable information they need to dig into the search results to find the actual answer because the AI overview cannot be trusted.]

Yeah I was trying to find the law not suppliers views of the law with their T&C's but the actual clear law on this for my own knowledge, so far failing with searches.
This might actually become relevant as the property next door is soon to come up for sale and we know it has a very old solar install and potentially and old dumb meter which could be interesting.

Section 13 of the Theft Act 1968.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1968/60/section/13

I had to break off my search earlier before finding that. Posted Octopus's T&C as I'd already found them.

Thanks and noted and saved as we are considering the house next door that has become vacant with very old solar install with definitely analogue meters and the old man that lived there previously said his bills were practically nothing so might have something to unpick there. We don't necessarily want the house but the half acre of land we could carve off and then decide whether to resell the property or rent it out although it's an EPC E with very old storage heaters and needs a complete refurb. (anyway I digress as usual)