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Is this legal from the employer?
mjmjjjmmm
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New CEO. Made a point to say they want to create an environment where everyone is heard.
Someone (when prompted by CEO) explained their situation about their line manager who has made their job impossible by giving no constructive feedback, no guidelines, no help, but only criticism and denial of proposals, with no help or guidance to create a proposal that would pass. Also no praise or constructive criticism at mandatory supervisions.
Also leaves said person feeling dejected and undervalued.
CEO said they would consider this, no follow up with the employer.
A few months later, the CEO has now made the role redundant and left the only choice for the employee to apply for an inappropriate job, or take redundancy.
Is these legally ok?
Someone (when prompted by CEO) explained their situation about their line manager who has made their job impossible by giving no constructive feedback, no guidelines, no help, but only criticism and denial of proposals, with no help or guidance to create a proposal that would pass. Also no praise or constructive criticism at mandatory supervisions.
Also leaves said person feeling dejected and undervalued.
CEO said they would consider this, no follow up with the employer.
A few months later, the CEO has now made the role redundant and left the only choice for the employee to apply for an inappropriate job, or take redundancy.
Is these legally ok?
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(said line manager has also made many people feel demoralised and made their roles impossible, who all stated this in their exit interviews)0
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Making someone's role redundant is legal, yes. Not offering them a suitable alternative role is also legal, as long as no suitable role exists.
Are you saying that they were made redundant because they criticised their boss? Not good practice of course but difficult to prove that the employer did wrong.1 -
Why didn't the employee highlight to the CEO the lack of work they had to perform?0
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Thank you for your reply. I think it will just have to be filed away as lesson learnt, not to trust a CEO who goes out of their way to extract information to use against employees.El_Torro said:Making someone's role redundant is legal, yes. Not offering them a suitable alternative role is also legal, as long as no suitable role exists.
Are you saying that they were made redundant because they criticised their boss? Not good practice of course but difficult to prove that the employer did wrong.
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The employee has worked there for nearly a decade, longer than most of the staff. Is widely regarded as someone who works hard, (as evidenced by previous line managers there,) also going outside their job role to help keep the company going. They have other work besides proposals as they do a wide range of managerial tasks. So it is obvious that they perform, and do valued work. In this situation it seems a retaliation to an employee that pointed out a line manager who in effect bullies everyone out of their jobsHoenir said:0 -
But form your first post it sounds as if the employee also told the CEO that (for whatever reason) they found it impossible to do their job.....mjmjjjmmm said:
The employee has worked there for nearly a decade, longer than most of the staff. Is widely regarded as someone who works hard, (as evidenced by previous line managers there,) also going outside their job role to help keep the company going. They have other work besides proposals as they do a wide range of managerial tasks. So it is obvious that they perform, and do valued work. In this situation it seems a retaliation to an employee that pointed out a line manager who in effect bullies everyone out of their jobsHoenir said:0 -
An employer needs to be able to evidence the fact that the redundancy is genuine and the employee's role no longer exists. The CEO isn't going to be playing games in arriving at the decision.mjmjjjmmm said:
The employee has worked there for nearly a decade, longer than most of the staff. Is widely regarded as someone who works hard, (as evidenced by previous line managers there,) also going outside their job role to help keep the company going. They have other work besides proposals as they do a wide range of managerial tasks. So it is obvious that they perform, and do valued work. In this situation it seems a retaliation to an employee that pointed out a line manager who in effect bullies everyone out of their jobsHoenir said:0 -
There must be thousands of people who perform well on their jobs for many years who have been made redundant when their job role ceases.mjmjjjmmm said:
The employee has worked there for nearly a decade, longer than most of the staff. Is widely regarded as someone who works hard, (as evidenced by previous line managers there,) also going outside their job role to help keep the company going. They have other work besides proposals as they do a wide range of managerial tasks. So it is obvious that they perform, and do valued work. In this situation it seems a retaliation to an employee that pointed out a line manager who in effect bullies everyone out of their jobsHoenir said:My husband was one of them, after 20 years progressing from shop floor worker to Product Development Manager.1
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