PIP telephone assessment

Muttleythefrog

ET22 said:

Quick update. I received a copy of the assessment back and from what I can make out , scored 11 in daily living. 

I haven’t been through the assessment properly yet but at first glance there are a few things that need to be challenged. 

Can I ask if anyone has challenged them verbal communication and understanding? 

Can anyone tell me how long a review under mandatory consideration would take? 

Thanks x 

Pleased you got copy... obviously not surprising you'd disagree with some of it. Good news is you've got what sounds like a very good benchmark to start from in challenging any decision. 

If 11 points in DL, presumably none in mobility?, then you'll likely get an award of standard daily living just 1 points shy of enhanced.
You will unfortunately need to wait for this decision to challenge it with Mandatory Reconsideration (MR). Not sure on timelines... others might have recent handle on that.. few weeks to 3 months I'd guess but I may be wrong.

I'm sure many about will have challenged decision on that particular activity. CAB website is good for basic guide on interpreting and thinking about each activity.

MRs usually result in same decision but a decent chunk are changed. Expect more chance of success at appeal tribunal which is independent and could take many many months to be held after the MR decision if you did then need to appeal.

So have a good read of the assessment report. Note exactly the points scored in each activity and also what you think you should be scored. If you want to challenge decision likely to come then you could start then preparing by going through each activity and either sit in agreement with it or explain your problems and what they should consider your level of disablement (descriptor) to be. Any supporting evidence helpful. Try to sound agreeable and reasonable... especially where you can regarding descriptors you agree they correctly chose - this also hopefully is a protective factor against risks of 'losing points'.

ET22

At least one part of the assessment is flawed. Mine is a poor assessment of the facts with no decent analysis. 

Yea it was daily living component only 

@Muttleythefrog, I will read up on it later x 

peteuk

ET22 said:

Quick update. I received a copy of the assessment back and from what I can make out , scored 11 in daily living. 

I haven’t been through the assessment properly yet but at first glance there are a few things that need to be challenged. 

Can I ask if anyone has challenged them verbal communication and understanding? 

Can anyone tell me how long a review under mandatory consideration would take? 

Thanks x 

Take a really long look at it, firstly is there anywhere they have suggested aids or have not then applied the same logic/judgement in another area. For instance the may say you can dress but not bath (look at similar actions) It may be an oversight on the assessors part.  It’s an easier win of 1 point. 

Then look at the areas you believe you should get an extra point.  

I do noted that your unhappy with the assessment, be mindful that they are written a certain way, yes it may be you disagree but youve got a strong scoring claim.

Out of interest what was the time frame for reassessment. 

ET22

Hi @peteuk , the review timeframe is 18 months.

I need to go through it properly. I only opened it last night and I only managed to count the scores and look at some of the assessment.

ET22

Just an update. I got a text message saying i had been awarded PIP, so im just waiting for he letter to arrive or the money to go into my account. 

Ive had a few things going on this month to say the least so I havent yet looked at the copy of the assessment properly yet but it is on my to do list.

I think i will be asking for a mandatory consideration because the assessment took place 4 days after I had just finished crisis treatment in the community and may not have answered the questions fully as I was still in recovery. However, i may leave it another 3 months because Im not sure if they then say the information i gave in the assessment was unreliable anyway and withdraw the award. Im not sure what the process is yet

I think the assesor didnt have the right information because ive been told by professionals now that the condition will never go away x 


 

peteuk

ET22 said:

Just an update. I got a text message saying i had been awarded PIP, so im just waiting for he letter to arrive or the money to go into my account. 

Ive had a few things going on this month to say the least so I havent yet looked at the copy of the assessment properly yet but it is on my to do list.

I think i will be asking for a mandatory consideration because the assessment took place 4 days after I had just finished crisis treatment in the community and may not have answered the questions fully as I was still in recovery. However, i may leave it another 3 months because Im not sure if they then say the information i gave in the assessment was unreliable anyway and withdraw the award. Im not sure what the process is yet

I think the assesor didnt have the right information because ive been told by professionals now that the condition will never go away x 


 

Firstly I would look at your report/ award letter before even thinking about am MR.  What you need to look at is has anything changed that would increase your assessment. I’ve also made a further suggestion in a previous post.

 I would add your last line will not affect your level of PIP but may affect the length of the award. 

ET22

I had the letter confirming ive been awarded it but on the letter it said from october 2025 to july 2027 nand i woud receive a payment if 10 pounds and a few pence in october 2025. I think i will be on the phone to them in the morning, it must be a system error. I wonder if other people are getting the same mistake x

peteuk

ET22 said:

I had the letter confirming ive been awarded it but on the letter it said from october 2025 to july 2027 nand i woud receive a payment if 10 pounds and a few pence in october 2025. I think i will be on the phone to them in the morning, it must be a system error. I wonder if other people are getting the same mistake x

Youve been awarded PIP, if this is your first claim then it should be backdated to the date of your application (I susspect the error is 2024 written as 2025) 

ET22

I think i will give them a ring on monday because it looks like its a system generated letter stating a system generated calculation from incorrect dates. I really do not like ringing DWP. All they seem to say is that they cant help you, that they know someone that can and transfer you to a call that says number no longer in use. Fingers crossed its a problem thats easily fixed