Tariffs for Solar plus Heat Pump

Gerry1

matt_drummer said:

But I would never choose Intelligent Flux.
I am not comfortable giving anybody total control over my stuff.

You've already done that if you have a smart meter.

matt_drummer

Gerry1 said:

matt_drummer said:

But I would never choose Intelligent Flux.
I am not comfortable giving anybody total control over my stuff.

You've already done that if you have a smart meter.

Please explain?

How does an electricity meter turn my stuff on and off?

How does a smart meter decide when to charge or discharge my batteries?

How does a smart meter decide when to charge my cars?

I don't understand?

The smart meter allows me to buy all my electricity for 7p per kWh.

What am I missing @Gerry1

Gerry1

If you read the specification you'll find that your smart meter has several surprises up its sleeve including Load Limiting, Block Pricing and Load Shedding.

Similarly your home EV charger or cable has to be smart so that it can decide when it will allow you charge and by how much.

matt_drummer

Gerry1 said:

If you read the specification you'll find that your smart meter has several surprises up its sleeve including Load Limiting, Block Pricing and Load Shedding.

Similarly your home EV charger or cable has to be smart so that it can decide when it will allow you charge and by how much.

And when will that start?

You keep saying this but none of that has happened yet.

Why would energy companies want to limit how much electricity I buy?

I thought that they were all greedy and wanted as much money as possible?

Stopping me buying electricity doesn't seem to fit?

Is there an option?

Everybody will have to have a smart meter sooner or later?

Gerry1

For those with GCH and a petrol car the typical annual electricity usage is about 2700kWh.  But if you add a heat pump and EV your usage will rocket, perhaps another 3800kWh and 2000kWh respectively.  So you’ll be using three times as much electricity.

The power stations and the street cables will both struggle to meet the peak demands, especially during a dunkelflaut.  The idea that you can use the electric kettle, washing machine, electric oven, electric shower, heatpump and charge the EV whenever you like will seem as quaint as doing the ton on the M1 before the advent of average speed cameras.

Your smart meter and your home charger will have the final say.  Disobey the smart meter and it’ll knock your lights out.  It's been happening in southern Africa for years.

matt_drummer

I charge my car at night.

My heat pump uses as much electricity as a games console, presumably they'll be restricted too?

I don't think I can do all those thing together even now, I have a fuse on my incoming supply, don't you?

Even in your scenario, the smart meter doesn't have total control of my stuff does it?

The smart meter doesn't walk over and turn my kettle on, plug my car in, things like that does it?

I assume you think you won't be getting a smart meter and that you will be immune?

Will you be getting a heat pump and an ev @Gerry1?

If I remember, you don't use a lot of energy in your home? If so, why are you so worried?

The DNO approved all my stuff on the basis that their equipment can cope, your're saying they have made a mistake?

These restrictions, they'll only apply to people with smart meters?

What will happen to the `smart' people who refused installation?

Those that avoid smart meters often seem to be low users with other complaints regarding energy supply. Why are low users worried about being restricted in what they use?


In the end, what you are saying is that I should have stuck with my non smart meter, paid loads more for my gas and electricity over the last fifteen years, stuck with a diesel car and a gas boiler because heat pumps don't work and evs are rubbish and I won't be able to use them both at the same time at some point in the future?

You really believe what you write?

You think your advice is sound?