Renters' Rights Bill - Will it screw me over?

ReadySteadyPop

caprikid1 said:

"I can`t think of a time when there were more To Let/For Sale signs on display to be honest,"

I can't think of a time when there has been less, or do you wish to publish actual substantiate empirical data or just make things up to fit your narrative ?

"As a result, letting agents are now receiving an average of 25 email and phone enquiries from prospective tenants for every home available to rent. This has risen from eight enquiries per property in 2019, and five more than in May of this year."

Number of rental enquiries still double pre-pandemic, as rents predicted to rise 3% - Rightmove Press Centre

Letting agents are receiving 25 tenant enquiries for every rental home | Property news

Don't let facts get in the way of your mission.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/jan/07/uk-retailers-cut-jobs-christmas-sales-growth-card-spending

I just need to walk outside to see reality in a city, not a rural village where there are three cottages for let at any given time as some posters seem to be using for their examples of the UK rental market.

The only way is down for overleveraged landlords I`m afraid, the maths just doesn`t work anymore.

caprikid1

ReadySteadyPop said:

caprikid1 said:

"I can`t think of a time when there were more To Let/For Sale signs on display to be honest,"

I can't think of a time when there has been less, or do you wish to publish actual substantiate empirical data or just make things up to fit your narrative ?

"As a result, letting agents are now receiving an average of 25 email and phone enquiries from prospective tenants for every home available to rent. This has risen from eight enquiries per property in 2019, and five more than in May of this year."

Number of rental enquiries still double pre-pandemic, as rents predicted to rise 3% - Rightmove Press Centre

Letting agents are receiving 25 tenant enquiries for every rental home | Property news

Don't let facts get in the way of your mission.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/jan/07/uk-retailers-cut-jobs-christmas-sales-growth-card-spending

I just need to walk outside to see reality in a city, not a rural village where there are three cottages for let at any given time as some posters seem to be using for their examples of the UK rental market.

The only way is down for overleveraged landlords I`m afraid, the maths just doesn`t work anymore.

You seem so intent on pushing your narrative you did not actually answer the challenge of provide empirical evidence to unprecedented levels of rental accommodation on the market as per your previous statement.

Provide the provide the evidence or don't reply

ReadySteadyPop

caprikid1 said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

caprikid1 said:

"I can`t think of a time when there were more To Let/For Sale signs on display to be honest,"

I can't think of a time when there has been less, or do you wish to publish actual substantiate empirical data or just make things up to fit your narrative ?

"As a result, letting agents are now receiving an average of 25 email and phone enquiries from prospective tenants for every home available to rent. This has risen from eight enquiries per property in 2019, and five more than in May of this year."

Number of rental enquiries still double pre-pandemic, as rents predicted to rise 3% - Rightmove Press Centre

Letting agents are receiving 25 tenant enquiries for every rental home | Property news

Don't let facts get in the way of your mission.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/jan/07/uk-retailers-cut-jobs-christmas-sales-growth-card-spending

I just need to walk outside to see reality in a city, not a rural village where there are three cottages for let at any given time as some posters seem to be using for their examples of the UK rental market.

The only way is down for overleveraged landlords I`m afraid, the maths just doesn`t work anymore.

You seem so intent on pushing your narrative you did not actually answer the challenge of provide empirical evidence to unprecedented levels of rental accommodation on the market as per your previous statement.

Provide the provide the evidence or don't reply

I could walk outside and take photos and post it up, but I am not going to do that because it probably breaks some forum rule, but posting Rightmove links as "empirical evidence" is certainly not going to be taken seriously by anyone, you would need to have something better than this I`m afraid.

horsewithnoname

FlorayG said:

spoovy said:

I think the idea is to not make perfect the enemy of good. Yes of course in the short to medium term disruption will impact renters and that's not ideal, but that's not a good reason to allow the current parasitical and abusive system to carry on unchanged forever.

The current regulations are not 'parasitical and abusive'
SOME landlords are parasitical and abusive
Most of us are not
And guess what? The bad landlords will ignore the new rules just the way they ignore the current rules so it won't even affect them , it will only cause more hassle for the landlords who look after their tenants

The important thing will be to enforce the new regulations, who will be doing that? 

It’s like there are standards for restaurants, for example, but there aren’t the people to enforce them, so the scumbags in the industry just ignore the regulations. 

ReadySteadyPop

horsewithnoname said:

FlorayG said:

spoovy said:

I think the idea is to not make perfect the enemy of good. Yes of course in the short to medium term disruption will impact renters and that's not ideal, but that's not a good reason to allow the current parasitical and abusive system to carry on unchanged forever.

The current regulations are not 'parasitical and abusive'
SOME landlords are parasitical and abusive
Most of us are not
And guess what? The bad landlords will ignore the new rules just the way they ignore the current rules so it won't even affect them , it will only cause more hassle for the landlords who look after their tenants

The important thing will be to enforce the new regulations, who will be doing that? 

It’s like there are standards for restaurants, for example, but there aren’t the people to enforce them, so the scumbags in the industry just ignore the regulations. 

The public flag them up though by reporting, it just takes one peed off tenant to alert tax authorities for example, a total tightrope for landlords who are playing loose with the rules.

caprikid1

ReadySteadyPop said:

caprikid1 said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

caprikid1 said:

"I can`t think of a time when there were more To Let/For Sale signs on display to be honest,"

I can't think of a time when there has been less, or do you wish to publish actual substantiate empirical data or just make things up to fit your narrative ?

"As a result, letting agents are now receiving an average of 25 email and phone enquiries from prospective tenants for every home available to rent. This has risen from eight enquiries per property in 2019, and five more than in May of this year."

Number of rental enquiries still double pre-pandemic, as rents predicted to rise 3% - Rightmove Press Centre

Letting agents are receiving 25 tenant enquiries for every rental home | Property news

Don't let facts get in the way of your mission.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/jan/07/uk-retailers-cut-jobs-christmas-sales-growth-card-spending

I just need to walk outside to see reality in a city, not a rural village where there are three cottages for let at any given time as some posters seem to be using for their examples of the UK rental market.

The only way is down for overleveraged landlords I`m afraid, the maths just doesn`t work anymore.

You seem so intent on pushing your narrative you did not actually answer the challenge of provide empirical evidence to unprecedented levels of rental accommodation on the market as per your previous statement.

Provide the provide the evidence or don't reply

I could walk outside and take photos and post it up, but I am not going to do that because it probably breaks some forum rule, but posting Rightmove links as "empirical evidence" is certainly not going to be taken seriously by anyone, you would need to have something better than this I`m afraid.

"I could walk outside and take photos and post it up, "

So no one wants to live on your street close to you  = UK Rental Glut

I am not sure one row of houses with a few for a sale / to let really is a sufficient sample of the UK housing market. I think it's safe to say you cannot substantiate the narrative you are trying to pedal.

Olinda99

PacketofCrisps said:

So let me get this straight, I understand that this amendment to the renters bill makes it illegal for landlords/agencies to demand more than 1 months rent but does it also make it illegal for a renter like myself to offer to pay say 6 months rent up front? 

 

Illegal for a landlord to accept your offer, not illegal.for you to make it

"Once enacted, the Renters’ Rights Bill will amend the Tenant Fees Act 2019 to prohibit landlords or letting agents from requiring or accepting any payment of rent in advance of the tenancy being entered into. "

ReadySteadyPop

caprikid1 said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

caprikid1 said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

caprikid1 said:

"I can`t think of a time when there were more To Let/For Sale signs on display to be honest,"

I can't think of a time when there has been less, or do you wish to publish actual substantiate empirical data or just make things up to fit your narrative ?

"As a result, letting agents are now receiving an average of 25 email and phone enquiries from prospective tenants for every home available to rent. This has risen from eight enquiries per property in 2019, and five more than in May of this year."

Number of rental enquiries still double pre-pandemic, as rents predicted to rise 3% - Rightmove Press Centre

Letting agents are receiving 25 tenant enquiries for every rental home | Property news

Don't let facts get in the way of your mission.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/jan/07/uk-retailers-cut-jobs-christmas-sales-growth-card-spending

I just need to walk outside to see reality in a city, not a rural village where there are three cottages for let at any given time as some posters seem to be using for their examples of the UK rental market.

The only way is down for overleveraged landlords I`m afraid, the maths just doesn`t work anymore.

You seem so intent on pushing your narrative you did not actually answer the challenge of provide empirical evidence to unprecedented levels of rental accommodation on the market as per your previous statement.

Provide the provide the evidence or don't reply

I could walk outside and take photos and post it up, but I am not going to do that because it probably breaks some forum rule, but posting Rightmove links as "empirical evidence" is certainly not going to be taken seriously by anyone, you would need to have something better than this I`m afraid.

"I could walk outside and take photos and post it up, "

So no one wants to live on your street close to you  = UK Rental Glut

I am not sure one row of houses with a few for a sale / to let really is a sufficient sample of the UK housing market. I think it's safe to say you cannot substantiate the narrative you are trying to pedal.

I am not talking about one street, there are very few in my street actually, LOL, I am talking about multiple areas and multiple streets in a city. 

eltisley98

Just curious about this: are fixed-term rental agreements banned? If so the tenant can move out anytime they want with the landlord bearing the loss of rent? I mean the tenant can (knowingly cheat and) promise that you will rent for a year to secure the rental, but then leave after a month?

caprikid1

ReadySteadyPop said:

caprikid1 said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

caprikid1 said:

ReadySteadyPop said:

caprikid1 said:

"I can`t think of a time when there were more To Let/For Sale signs on display to be honest,"

I can't think of a time when there has been less, or do you wish to publish actual substantiate empirical data or just make things up to fit your narrative ?

"As a result, letting agents are now receiving an average of 25 email and phone enquiries from prospective tenants for every home available to rent. This has risen from eight enquiries per property in 2019, and five more than in May of this year."

Number of rental enquiries still double pre-pandemic, as rents predicted to rise 3% - Rightmove Press Centre

Letting agents are receiving 25 tenant enquiries for every rental home | Property news

Don't let facts get in the way of your mission.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/jan/07/uk-retailers-cut-jobs-christmas-sales-growth-card-spending

I just need to walk outside to see reality in a city, not a rural village where there are three cottages for let at any given time as some posters seem to be using for their examples of the UK rental market.

The only way is down for overleveraged landlords I`m afraid, the maths just doesn`t work anymore.

You seem so intent on pushing your narrative you did not actually answer the challenge of provide empirical evidence to unprecedented levels of rental accommodation on the market as per your previous statement.

Provide the provide the evidence or don't reply

I could walk outside and take photos and post it up, but I am not going to do that because it probably breaks some forum rule, but posting Rightmove links as "empirical evidence" is certainly not going to be taken seriously by anyone, you would need to have something better than this I`m afraid.

"I could walk outside and take photos and post it up, "

So no one wants to live on your street close to you  = UK Rental Glut

I am not sure one row of houses with a few for a sale / to let really is a sufficient sample of the UK housing market. I think it's safe to say you cannot substantiate the narrative you are trying to pedal.

I am not talking about one street, there are very few in my street actually, LOL, I am talking about multiple areas and multiple streets in a city. 

Thanks ,That's sufficient empirical evidence to base sound investment decisions on, thanks for your expertise. It's not even a school holiday. Through your rose tinted spectacles you see the evidence to fit your narrative, unfortunately you are unable to find it in the real world outside of fantasy land.