Tupe transfer benefits

Marcon

nikimarie said:

Hoenir said:

nikimarie said:

Is there anyway of negotiating this at all?

Probably not. Common for TUPE'd employees to be on all round better packges than existing employees. 

Unfortunately not, my package is far worse for me then all other staff.

Why are you tolerating this sort of treatment? I appreciate there are often good reasons ('necessity' being one of them), but I hope you are also job hunting when your current employer places so little value on retaining your services.

EnPointe

nikimarie said:

EnPointe said:

nikimarie said:

I was on a contract for a company contracted to a business and the business decided to take the contract on themselves and I was transferred over on a tupe contract. Employees that work for this company get staff discount, but we were told that we would not get this perk within this job role. 

Since the transfer other employees left, but I remained. They have employed new staff and they have the staff discount. I asked if I could be entitled to the staff discount, but they said the only way I could get it was by leaving the job, then reapplying and going through an interview as a new employee (with a risk of not getting the job)

I've been helping keeping things going on my own doing above and beyond my contracted job whilst they employed new staff- done all the training, ordering and supervising (not my job) and yet everytime I ask for something they remind me I'm on a tupe contract.

Is there anyway of negotiating this at all?

are you  terms and conditions otherwise  more generous than the  equivalent Grade  contract  for the  those subsequently  recruited  ?

No, I get none of the bonus or discounts that new staff doing the same job I do get. 

basic pay ? 
variable pay elements ?  (e.g.  unsocial hours, bank hoilday arrangements, TOIL accrual rates ,  ) 
annual leave ?
Pension scheme ?

EnPointe

Marcon said:

nikimarie said:

Hoenir said:

nikimarie said:

Is there anyway of negotiating this at all?

Probably not. Common for TUPE'd employees to be on all round better packges than existing employees. 

Unfortunately not, my package is far worse for me then all other staff.

Why are you tolerating this sort of treatment? I appreciate there are often good reasons ('necessity' being one of them), but I hope you are also job hunting when your current employer places so little value on retaining your services.

notice  that the OP has been quiet on basic pay, variable pay and pension arrangements   (I'm, aware of  some (now limited numbers  due to the  length of time these changes happend)  Staff  workign for Private  Nursing homes who were TUPEd  on the final closure of the County Pauper Lunatic Asylums and dispersal of their  remaining long stay patients  who were TUPEd  with  equivalent to the NHS provisions for variable pay elements and pensions , their  basic pay  is  rather less than  new appointees into similar seniority roles , but the new appointees don't get  NHS   style  package ,just an ordinary salary,  auto enrolment pension and limited or no  Unsocial hours 

nikimarie

Everything else is the same as the new staff, holiday has been awkward as all staff have to pre-book holiday for the year, including new staff when they started so I've been told to take my holiday around everybody else. 
I haven't left because honestly its in walking distance from home and fits in around my family. I just don't understand why it's such a flat rate refusal!

nikimarie

Basically they have said that I am not a member of "their" staff, therefore I am not entitled to what they have.

EnPointe

nikimarie said:

Basically they have said that I am not a member of "their" staff, therefore I am not entitled to what they have.

what  does your union say ? 

what was in the Measures Document around the TUPE 

if  basic and variable pay and  leave are in line  between the tupe'd contract and the current contracts being offered , and pensions  and  sickness  are broadly comparable  then there is little or no grounds for  the contracts not to be harmonised