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EPC rating on house

Charrrb
Charrrb Posts: 18 Forumite
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edited 5 January at 11:34PM in House buying, renting & selling
Hi all! Any advice appreciated on my current situation.

I viewed an old renovated Chapel (1854) today. It’s absolutely perfect for me. Large open plan living/kitchen/dining with a mezzanine bedroom, a small bathroom and a small second bedroom. 
On viewing the property I’d asked for the EPC which was rated as G so my main worries were the cost of heating the property. On viewing the property it was adequately heated. The log fire was on and three radiators in each room which are powered by LPG bottled gas. The seller informed me that he has disputed the EPC when it was done as it states in there that it is assumed that there is no roof insulation and therefore this aspect is rated very poor, when in fact there is insulation in the roof and he was able to show me this. He also told me the house was very inexpensive to run and he showed me that since January 2024 until now (1 year) he has needed to buy 8 gas bottles and £80 each. He works from home and so spends a lot of time there. The electricity is just for the sockets and light source so it also cheap. It is considerably cheaper than what I’m currently paying for gas and electric in my 3 bed home. 

I’m so confused? Is it normal for an EPC to be incorrect and is it usual for it to be inexpensive to heat a house with a rating so low? Can anyone recommend any actions I can take to reassure this is accurate information? 
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  • Mr.Generous
    Mr.Generous Posts: 3,933 Forumite
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    An EPC can indeed be incorrect, of the 5 rentals I have 2 state "No loft insulation (assumed)" where I know there is loft insulation, and it is readily accessible through a large hatch and in 1 case a wooden step loft ladder. The inspectors do the minimum possible sometimes.
    Mr Generous - Landlord for more than 10 years. Generous? - Possibly but sarcastic more likely.
  • dinosaur66
    dinosaur66 Posts: 272 Forumite
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    epcs are cheap  / they do not spend that much time at the property last one i had done last year in and out in 40 mins and most of that writing down info / but usually in this type of property they have an E as approx best .


    i would like a converted church like you love the layout and open plan

    G is rock bottom and it sounds way better than that /epc man took easy route rather than getting ladders and doing a proper job.?

    heating wise i have always assumed they are double/treble  that of a traditional property /cannot beleive it would be cheaper / maybe he just turned heating on when it was down to 8 degrees if he was single.

    lpg must be very long lasting compared to butane
    i buy my elderly mother a 15kg bottle of butane gas for her living room which is 60sqm approx and with 1 bar on about 8 hours a day it lasts 2 weeks max-she sits in her chair in front of it / i have her central heating  on as well but at about 18
    cant imagine it running on butane and heating 3 radiators for more than a few days
    one thing to look at the insurance /rebuild costs -because of uniqueness they quote very high when i looked into it on insurance on a church conversion in farlie i was intrested in.
    i think it had a rebuild cost of 2 million -property was 650

  • singhini
    singhini Posts: 730 Forumite
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    I'm not sure of your specific question but you should be able to look the energy certificate up here and see when and who issued it (and perhaps contact them to discuss it)

     https://www.gov.uk/find-energy-certificate

  • chanz4
    chanz4 Posts: 11,057 Forumite
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    I brought a new build epc b, went to sell it 10 years later said windows due to be 10 years old and heating control knocked it down. One of the warmest houses I have had
    Don't put your trust into an Experian score - it is not a number any bank will ever use & it is generally a waste of money to purchase it. They are also selling you insurance you dont need.
  • grumpy_codger
    grumpy_codger Posts: 711 Forumite
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    Charrrb said:
    ... The seller informed me that he has disputed the EPC when it was done as it states in there that it is assumed that there is no roof insulation and therefore this aspect is rated very poor, when in fact there is insulation in the roof and he was able to show me this. ...
    Loft is very easy to insulate, especially if it isn't used for storage, but what about the walls and the floor? The windows?

  • Spies
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    If you go to uswitch energy comparison site, assuming the property has a smart meter, you'll get a fairly accurate representation of how much gas and electric the property uses. 
    4.29kWp Solar system, 45/55 South/West split in cloudy rainy Cumbria. 
  • Keep_pedalling
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    Spies said:
    If you go to uswitch energy comparison site, assuming the property has a smart meter, you'll get a fairly accurate representation of how much gas and electric the property uses. 
    Not when LPG is being used. 
  • Spies
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    Spies said:
    If you go to uswitch energy comparison site, assuming the property has a smart meter, you'll get a fairly accurate representation of how much gas and electric the property uses. 
    Not when LPG is being used. 
    !!!!!!, missed that bit! 
    4.29kWp Solar system, 45/55 South/West split in cloudy rainy Cumbria. 
  • Albermarle
    Albermarle Posts: 27,223 Forumite
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     Large open plan living/kitchen/dining with a maisonette bedroom, a small bathroom and a small second bedroom. 
    Maybe a daft question, but what is a 'maisonette bedroom' ?
  • anselld
    anselld Posts: 8,588 Forumite
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     Large open plan living/kitchen/dining with a maisonette bedroom, a small bathroom and a small second bedroom. 
    Maybe a daft question, but what is a 'maisonette bedroom' ?
    Probably means mezzanine.
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