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solidpro
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edited 30 December 2024 at 12:03AM in Savings & investments
Warren Buffett jumped from about 3% cash allocation to 12%, 1 year before the dot-com crash. He went from under 10% to 23%, 3 years before the 2008 Financial crisis. In the last 2 quarters, has jumped from around 15% cash to 28% cash. 

Timing or time in? Decision time!

If only I had $330bn in cash to play with, I could afford to switch between 10% and 30% cash allocation and not get too worried about running out.

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  • Hasn't he started buying again recently?
  • Brie
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    I wonder what he's been selling to get the cash.  I suspect that the stock market might do a bit of wobbling in the US in particular in the coming weeks.  
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    Berkshire Hathaway is predominantly an insurance company not Warren Buffet's personal plaything. When you've billions of $ under management there's limited options as to where to invest it. 

  • 3% cash allocation to 12%, 1 year before the dot-com crash

    10% to 23%, 3 years before the 2008 Financial crisis

    last 2 quarters, has jumped from around 15% cash to 28% cash. 

    .... so he is pretty rubbish at timing the markets then!




  • masonic
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    edited 31 December 2024 at 6:35PM

    3% cash allocation to 12%, 1 year before the dot-com crash

    10% to 23%, 3 years before the 2008 Financial crisis

    last 2 quarters, has jumped from around 15% cash to 28% cash. 

    .... so he is pretty rubbish at timing the markets then!
    It is far from established that those correlations were causative, but supposing that they were, 3 years is quite rubbish when it comes to timing crashes. Missing out on 3 years growth can be worse than riding out a crash.
    I personally think that after two great years and a much longer period of fairly sustained growth, we are long overdue a prolonged downturn. But the only thing I am doing about it is making absolutely sure I am not invested above my risk tolerance.
  • Hoenir
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    masonic said:

    3% cash allocation to 12%, 1 year before the dot-com crash

    10% to 23%, 3 years before the 2008 Financial crisis

    last 2 quarters, has jumped from around 15% cash to 28% cash. 

    .... so he is pretty rubbish at timing the markets then!
    It is far from established that those correlations were causative, but supposing that they were, 3 years is quite rubbish when it comes to timing crashes. Missing out on 3 years growth can be worse than riding out a crash.
    I personally think that after two great years and a much longer period of fairly sustained growth, we are long overdue a prolonged downturn. But the only thing I am doing about it is making absolutely sure I am not invested above my risk tolerance.
    Bekshire Hathaway has exposure to many sectors of the US economy through it's trading subsidaries. As a result have a far better finger on the pulse of what's actually happening on the ground than people playing the markets from afar. 
  • masonic
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    edited 31 December 2024 at 6:59PM
    Hoenir said:
    masonic said:

    3% cash allocation to 12%, 1 year before the dot-com crash

    10% to 23%, 3 years before the 2008 Financial crisis

    last 2 quarters, has jumped from around 15% cash to 28% cash. 

    .... so he is pretty rubbish at timing the markets then!
    It is far from established that those correlations were causative, but supposing that they were, 3 years is quite rubbish when it comes to timing crashes. Missing out on 3 years growth can be worse than riding out a crash.
    I personally think that after two great years and a much longer period of fairly sustained growth, we are long overdue a prolonged downturn. But the only thing I am doing about it is making absolutely sure I am not invested above my risk tolerance.
    Bekshire Hathaway has exposure to many sectors of the US economy through it's trading subsidaries. As a result have a far better finger on the pulse of what's actually happening on the ground than people playing the markets from afar. 
    Do you think it has increased its cash position from 15% to 28% because it is predicting an imminent stockmarket crash? Or could it be that it just isn't seeing good opportunities to deploy that cash, ultimately being driven by a value investing philosophy?
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