Buying a house with removed internal wall

Jb070218

Section62 said:

Jb070218 said:

GDB2222 said:

There appear to be fireplaces at ground floor level, but not at first floor. Have the stacks been removed?

The fire place showing is the one on the first floor. Ground floor chimney breast has been removed

With building regs?

Slight tangent, but why are bedrooms 2 and 3 not shown having walls on the right hand side of the plan? Is this a problem with the scale of the plans?

I have included an enquiry request for the ground floor chimney removal was approved by building regs. 

Yes the scale is slightly off so it is a bit indicative what the plan is showing 

Section62

GDB2222 said:

Jb070218 said:

GDB2222 said:

There appear to be fireplaces at ground floor level, but not at first floor. Have the stacks been removed?

The fire place showing is the one on the first floor. Ground floor chimney breast has been removed

it’s still a problem. The stack weighs tons and needs to be supported. When the house was built, there was a continuous column from the foundations to the top of the stack. What’s holding it up at first floor level now ? 

I'm still trying to get my head around the plans.  On the ground floor there appears to be an external door where the original chimney breast (on the ground floor) would have been, plus a chimney breast in that position would have partially blocked access to the utility room.  Unless the ground floor room has been substantially altered from the original it doesn't make sense for there to have been a chimney breast on the ground floor to remove.

That raises the possibility the chimney starts in bedroom 1 and there was never a ground floor breast to remove (hence my Q whether the suspected removal was done with BR).  If the chimney did start in bedroom 1 (and not the ground floor) then there needed to be structure to support it, unless it was simply corbelled out from the wall.

In the former case, the supporting structure would itself needed support - and one possibility (and only a possibility) is the wall where the red line is formed part of the structure supporting the first floor chimney breast (along with the wall of the cupboard backing on to the ground floor WC).

badmemory

I would be more worried about the continuation of the kitchen walls and the chimney.

Jb070218

Section62 said:

GDB2222 said:

Jb070218 said:

GDB2222 said:

There appear to be fireplaces at ground floor level, but not at first floor. Have the stacks been removed?

The fire place showing is the one on the first floor. Ground floor chimney breast has been removed

it’s still a problem. The stack weighs tons and needs to be supported. When the house was built, there was a continuous column from the foundations to the top of the stack. What’s holding it up at first floor level now ? 

I'm still trying to get my head around the plans.  On the ground floor there appears to be an external door where the original chimney breast (on the ground floor) would have been, plus a chimney breast in that position would have partially blocked access to the utility room.  Unless the ground floor room has been substantially altered from the original it doesn't make sense for there to have been a chimney breast on the ground floor to remove.

That raises the possibility the chimney starts in bedroom 1 and there was never a ground floor breast to remove (hence my Q whether the suspected removal was done with BR).  If the chimney did start in bedroom 1 (and not the ground floor) then there needed to be structure to support it, unless it was simply corbelled out from the wall.

In the former case, the supporting structure would itself needed support - and one possibility (and only a possibility) is the wall where the red line is formed part of the structure supporting the first floor chimney breast (along with the wall of the cupboard backing on to the ground floor WC).

I believe there was a door in the removed wall which allowed access to the chimney in the kitchen. The fireplace in the first floor is offset allowing fireplace flue from the ground floor to run. 

I did see some bracket like structure (finished with plastering) where the chimney used to be. 

I dug out some photos from the survey of the loft joists showing them running parallel to the removed wall, could this potentially indicate the first floor joist are running the same way as the loft? Thank you