Apprenticeships - Mileage Claims

Grumpy_chap

TELLIT01 said:

For any mileage claim the distance of the normal commute has to be deducted from the mileage claimed.  That means if the normal commute is 10 miles that must be deducted from the claim, irrespective of the direction travelled to the training.

That may be an employer's rules.
The HMRC rules are less clear cut and somewhat more nuanced.

RR_THE_IT_GUY

Grumpy_chap said:

RR_THE_IT_GUY said:

Grumpy_chap said:

RR_THE_IT_GUY said:

Hi All,
Just a quick question around traveling to places of training for apprenticeships, would you be able to claim this milage (@45p a mile - normal commute distance) as a business expense as you are paid for this time and during the time of training inline with apprenticeship regulations etc.
For contest this would be 5 days, 3 times a year and is not a registered place of work so would not be typical "commuting"?

Whom is the individual hoping to claim the mileage from?
What is the expense policy of whomever that is?

If this is a claim at 45 pence per mile from HMRC, it does not work like that.
All that can be claimed from HMRC is tax-relief for the amount between the actual mileage reimbursed and the authorised rates.  If the individual does, say, 100 miles and is paid nothing by the employer, then the individual can claim tax relief against 45 pence per mile for 100 miles = £45.  For a basic rate tax payer, the actual value that equates to is £9 less income tax to be paid.

Their employer, not HMRC direct
Expense policy is for "business mileage" with a "valid reason" @45P a mile. It's a bit vague hence getting opinions before hand

In many (most?) work places I have experience of, attending a meaningfully different location for 5 days at a time three times a year would be reimbursed as business mileage.

AS these are five-day blocks, does the Apprentice, or do others, attending the alternative location need to stay overnight?  If so, how is the accommodation funded?  I would expect the situation with regard to mileage to be similar to the provision of accommodation and subsistence.

Thanks for the details, the location is close enough to be a "reasonable drive (around 35 mins to an hour each way)" so does not warrant accommodation its just far enough 30 miles (300 a week) to be a question of milage / parking expenses rather than anything else. 

I presume these rates would apply also due to being less than 8 hours a day?

Employee subsistence rates	Upper limits
One meal (5 hour) ceiling	£5

EnPointe

Grumpy_chap said:

TELLIT01 said:

For any mileage claim the distance of the normal commute has to be deducted from the mileage claimed.  That means if the normal commute is 10 miles that must be deducted from the claim, irrespective of the direction travelled to the training.

That may be an employer's rules.
The HMRC rules are less clear cut and somewhat more nuanced.

that's certainly what the NHS does , but again  it  depends on the organisation 

Andy_L

TELLIT01 said:

For any mileage claim the distance of the normal commute has to be deducted from the mileage claimed.  That means if the normal commute is 10 miles that must be deducted from the claim, irrespective of the direction travelled to the training.

HMRC abolished that requirement 20-odd years ago.
If an employer is imposing it that is their choice, much like paying less than the HMRC milage rate