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IVA Certificate for HMRC (completion 2010!)

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Hi I am in a messy dispute with HMRC, I have had a bill from HMRC for tax they say I owe from 2001. They said it’s been linked to an IVA which I had from 2005-2010 so they’re assuming I didn’t complete my Iva. This is incorrect as my IVA was completed and in fact I had a mortgage in Sept 2011. I cannot get a copy of my Iva because it’s so long ago. I have complained twice to HMRC to no avail. What can I do!!??

I have contacted Grant Thornton who I had the IVA with but they sold their business to ‘Debt Management’
i contacted them but as it was so long ago they do not have a copy.

i know HMRC are incorrect re the completion but they’re presuming I’m guilty (not completed IVA) when they have no proof of this other than their error.

please please help!!!

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  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 31,593 Ambassador
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    Not much you can do from that long ago, as there will be no records still existing.

    You say you complained twice to no avail, what exactly does that mean??

    They didn`t respond or they denied your complaint?
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  • They said they needed the certificate.  Both times when they replied.  
  • Thanks is this allowed?

    Hindsight is a wonderful thing I really wish I’d kept a copy and I’m sure I will have but I just can’t find it.  I’ll be searching my parents laptops the weekend 
  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 31,593 Ambassador
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    Thanks is this allowed?

    Hindsight is a wonderful thing I really wish I’d kept a copy and I’m sure I will have but I just can’t find it.  I’ll be searching my parents laptops the weekend 
    Do you have a better idea?

    My completion certificate was an A4 piece of paper with the IP`s name and signature on it, saying that my arrangement had completed successfully, with the date printed on it.

    To be fair it looked like a 6 year old had done it, so its your choice really, do that or pay the tax again.
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter
  • ManyWays
    ManyWays Posts: 1,365 Forumite
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    I think it is a very bad idea to forge an IP's signature on a fake completion certificate to send to HMRC. 

    I am sure that if an IVA fails, creditors are sent a letter of termination saying that. I suggest asking HMRC to produce that letter, then if they say they no longer have it as it was so long ago, you say you no longer have the completion certificate for the same reason. If they carry on asking you to pay, put in a formal complaint and also contact your MP. 
  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 31,593 Ambassador
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    ManyWays said:
    I think it is a very bad idea to forge an IP's signature on a fake completion certificate to send to HMRC. 

    I am sure that if an IVA fails, creditors are sent a letter of termination saying that. I suggest asking HMRC to produce that letter, then if they say they no longer have it as it was so long ago, you say you no longer have the completion certificate for the same reason. If they carry on asking you to pay, put in a formal complaint and also contact your MP. 
    Actually I agree with you, your idea is much, much better.
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter
  • MManyWays said:
    I think it is a very bad idea to forge an IP's signature on a fake completion certificate to send to HMRC. 

    I am sure that if an IVA fails, creditors are sent a letter of termination saying that. I suggest asking HMRC to produce that letter, then if they say they no longer have it as it was so long ago, you say you no longer have the completion certificate for the same reason. If they carry on asking you to pay, put in a formal complaint and also contact your MP. 

  • peachie1509
    peachie1509 Posts: 14 Forumite
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    edited 22 December 2024 at 10:58PM

    Great thanks for this Manyways!
  • peachie1509
    peachie1509 Posts: 14 Forumite
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    @ManyWays you my friend are a genius!  I did as you suggested asking for proof I didn’t complete my Iva from creditors and received an apology for their error and a credit of £50 for all the stress it’s caused me.  Thank you 
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