Husband has new job, no tax being taken.

candjsmum

chrisbur said:

candjsmum said:

chrisbur said:

The P45 was issued for month 7  Assuming the last weekly payslip in new job was week 36 then about £470 tax is underpaid.  This all points to the employer not entering the P45 pay and tax figures though if that were the case there would have been no tax rebate for the first payslip.  On that first payslip were there any figures for tax other than the rebate?   If there was a tax figure was the gross for that week lower than usual.

No tax was paid on his 1st payslip with them which was week 36 and my mistake he paid £125.60 on PAYE. For some reason I thought that was a rebate !! On this payslip his tax code is 1257L, his new tax code came through from HMRC at the end of November.
I have just emailed his payroll office with a copy of his P45 and have asked them to look into it for him. 

He was on emergency tax code for first week so tax of £125.60 deducted from gross of about £870.  I do not think that could have been week 36 as that is for paydays falling from December 7th to 13th. As tax is showing as nil for fifth payslip then that £125.60 must have been rebated at some point, that may be what you remember.
Hopefully new employer will now sort it all out though they might say the P45 never got to them and it is all the fault of HMRC.

Yes sorry this week's payslip was 36, I was juggling between 2. 
  Thanks for all your help. Hopefully it will be sorted soon 😊

penners324

Has he checked his record on his hmrc online account?

candjsmum

penners324 said:

Has he checked his record on his hmrc online account?

No good shout. I'll get him to do that when he's home tonight. Thanks xx

candjsmum

So we have looked on his HMRC account but not really sure what we should be looking for. I assume its showing an estimate of his earnings up until year end as he definitely hasn't earnt £18,200  with this new job? On his previous employment bit its showing end date as 5 April 24 but again I assume that is tax year. On his P45 it definitely says he ended his previous employment 31st October 24 and yes he was given an emergency tax code so paid this and then was given it as a rebate. Not heard anything back from payroll as yet so assume we need to sit tight. If they don't have the answer do we contact his tax office? 

chrisbur

The emergency tax code indicates that the payroll dept had not received the P45 at the cut off point for processing that payroll.  The following week the correct tax code was used but no previous pay and tax was put into the system. This could be because the payroll dept missed them from the P45 if they now had it or because HMRC issued a code notice and missed out the pay and tax details or HMRC issued a code notice with pay and tax details but payroll did not enter them.  
Hopefully the employer will see the mistake if it was their error and correct but if the error was with HMRC or the employer claims it was then yes I think you will have to contact them.
In the meantime just remember the tax will have to be paid eventually, as someone said earlier knock £268 off the taxable gross and 20% of what's left will be the tax figure near enough.

candjsmum

Thank you so much, we really appreciate your help.
 Yes we are saving part of his pay as we realise it will need to be paid back. If we haven't had a reply from his payroll office by Monday evening he will ring them on Tuesday and if that fails, he will ring HMRC and explain. 
 

candjsmum

So just to update.

No joy from his payroll office. They said they'd never received his P45 and to contact HMRC. After a lengthy discussion they have put him onto another code until April so the £430 can be paid back.
  After this, he emailed his payroll office with a copy of his induction checklist which had his managers signature beside everything received from him, including his P45.
  He told them this had obviously been "lost" between his office and theirs, subsequently meaning he was now having to repay the owed tax until April through no fault of his own 🫤
  At least it has now been sorted. 
Thanks for all your replies. 

Savvy_Sue

Did he keep 'his' part of the P45? The information needed is on all three parts, as far as I remember. 

(I lost count of the number of times I was given a complete P45 to process: if it's a paper version there are three pages, one for the employee to keep, one for the new employer to keep, and one for them to send off to HMRC.)

penners324

The payroll department should have received the P9 from hmrc after the first pay run.

Indeed most payroll systems link automatically to get this information. 

Sounds like big errors by payroll 

candjsmum

Savvy_Sue said:

Did he keep 'his' part of the P45? The information needed is on all three parts, as far as I remember. 

(I lost count of the number of times I was given a complete P45 to process: if it's a paper version there are three pages, one for the employee to keep, one for the new employer to keep, and one for them to send off to HMRC.)

Hi. Yes I have just checked his copy and its says EMPLOYEE COPY. xx