Landlord demanding deposit after Deposit Scheme have returned it to me

theartfullodger

Do not respond in any way to this stupid landlord.  (btw I'm a landlord, for my sins).  Until and unless you are served with court papers following his raising matters  with court, IMHO any response by you will simply encourage him.

Best wishes to all.

AnnBoo

theartfullodger said:

Do respond in any way to this stupid landlord.  (btw I'm a landlord, for my sins).  Until and unless you are served with court papers following his raising matters  with court, IMHO any response by ou will simply encourage him.

Best wishes to all.

thank you, its helpful to have a landlord's perspective. I did wonder about replying briefly, as others have suggested. the only bit I'm tempted to reply to is his claim that his son has emailed me prior to me receiving the deposit though the DPS, with a list of the repairs needed - I have had no such email and the DPS have confirmed they have had no contact from him  (and I've checked and re-checked my emails). Should I just not engage at all? (the son, btw, is a total chancer - his dad is LL, the house is the son's, the son contacted me by phone demanding a £300 pm rent increase, contravening the original tenancy agreement)
that's why I moved out

theartfullodger

The house is the sons?? Unless there's some agreement between son & father for father to rent it off son , then father rent it to whoever (you) there;s a problem with this.  I assume you've been paying Dad? IE I'm not sure who is "landlord". (You don't have to own a property to be a landlord - eg many agents have "Guaranteed rent" schemes/scams where owner rents it out to agent, agent rents it out to occupant. Entirely legal)

Do tell us who is named as landlord in tenancy agreement (that's what matters..).

NB for any rent to be due the tenant must have an address in England or Wales for the landlord: Unfortunately you've paid all the rent....(I assume..)
I stick to my earlier advice: Don't respond to landlord (dad or son)

I wonder who's been declaring rent income (all..) to HMRC.

DPS have given you deposit.  End of.  

Herzlos

AnnBoo said:

theartfullodger said:

Do respond in any way to this stupid landlord.  (btw I'm a landlord, for my sins).  Until and unless you are served with court papers following his raising matters  with court, IMHO any response by ou will simply encourage him.

Best wishes to all.

thank you, its helpful to have a landlord's perspective. I did wonder about replying briefly, as others have suggested. the only bit I'm tempted to reply to is his claim that his son has emailed me prior to me receiving the deposit though the DPS, with a list of the repairs needed - I have had no such email and the DPS have confirmed they have had no contact from him  (and I've checked and re-checked my emails). Should I just not engage at all? (the son, btw, is a total chancer - his dad is LL, the house is the son's, the son contacted me by phone demanding a £300 pm rent increase, contravening the original tenancy agreement)
that's why I moved out

I wouldn't address any points at this stage. ANYTHING you say to them will give them more to argue with you about and any kind of hint of doubt/weakness on your part will keep them pestering you for longer.

A short 'sod off' message or nothing at all. Then ignore anything that isn't from a court (which is almost certainly not going to happen).

Keep the emails should you want to refer to any of it in court,or if you want to talk to the police about harassment, but that's it.

penners324

Block his emails and phone number. If he's that desperate wait for the court paperwork.

Keep checking your credit file with Credit Karma, Clear Score & MSE Credit club though just in case he serves the notice at your old address

KittenChops

penners324 said:

Block his emails and phone number. If he's that desperate wait for the court paperwork.

Keep checking your credit file with Credit Karma, Clear Score & MSE Credit club though just in case he serves the notice at your old address

set up mail direction - not infallible but...

edited to add:
if he's got your new address, he should use that address, but might use the old address to try & get a judgment in default (i.e. not defended)

AnnBoo

theartfullodger said:

The house is the sons?? Unless there's some agreement between son & father for father to rent it off son , then father rent it to whoever (you) there;s a problem with this.  I assume you've been paying Dad? IE I'm not sure who is "landlord". (You don't have to own a property to be a landlord - eg many agents have "Guaranteed rent" schemes/scams where owner rents it out to agent, agent rents it out to occupant. Entirely legal)

Do tell us who is named as landlord in tenancy agreement (that's what matters..).

NB for any rent to be due the tenant must have an address in England or Wales for the landlord: Unfortunately you've paid all the rent....(I assume..)
I stick to my earlier advice: Don't respond to landlord (dad or son)

I wonder who's been declaring rent income (all..) to HMRC.

DPS have given you deposit.  End of.  

Hi theartfuldodger - son owns it, I pay/ Paid rent to his bank account, dad is named on the agreement. Yes, I've paid all the rent, and on time. The only time an agent was involved was in setting up the original agreement, then handed over management to the landlord. thanks again for your help and advice

AnnBoo

penners324 said:

Block his emails and phone number. If he's that desperate wait for the court paperwork.

Keep checking your credit file with Credit Karma, Clear Score & MSE Credit club though just in case he serves the notice at your old address

penners324 said:

Block his emails and phone number. If he's that desperate wait for the court paperwork.

Keep checking your credit file with Credit Karma, Clear Score & MSE Credit club though just in case he serves the notice at your old address

Im having my mail redirected from that address to my current one for the next year - does this cover this?

theartfullodger

AnnBoo said:

theartfullodger said:

The house is the sons?? Unless there's some agreement between son & father for father to rent it off son , then father rent it to whoever (you) there;s a problem with this.  I assume you've been paying Dad? IE I'm not sure who is "landlord". (You don't have to own a property to be a landlord - eg many agents have "Guaranteed rent" schemes/scams where owner rents it out to agent, agent rents it out to occupant. Entirely legal)

Do tell us who is named as landlord in tenancy agreement (that's what matters..).

NB for any rent to be due the tenant must have an address in England or Wales for the landlord: Unfortunately you've paid all the rent....(I assume..)
I stick to my earlier advice: Don't respond to landlord (dad or son)

I wonder who's been declaring rent income (all..) to HMRC.

DPS have given you deposit.  End of.  

Hi theartfuldodger - son owns it, I pay/ Paid rent to his bank account, dad is named on the agreement. Yes, I've paid all the rent, and on time. The only time an agent was involved was in setting up the original agreement, then handed over management to the landlord. thanks again for your help and advice

Lodger not dodger.  Blimey, dad named as landlord?  Few things wrong there, sound an ignorant pair.

AnnBoo

theartfullodger said:

AnnBoo said:

theartfullodger said:

The house is the sons?? Unless there's some agreement between son & father for father to rent it off son , then father rent it to whoever (you) there;s a problem with this.  I assume you've been paying Dad? IE I'm not sure who is "landlord". (You don't have to own a property to be a landlord - eg many agents have "Guaranteed rent" schemes/scams where owner rents it out to agent, agent rents it out to occupant. Entirely legal)

Do tell us who is named as landlord in tenancy agreement (that's what matters..).

NB for any rent to be due the tenant must have an address in England or Wales for the landlord: Unfortunately you've paid all the rent....(I assume..)
I stick to my earlier advice: Don't respond to landlord (dad or son)

I wonder who's been declaring rent income (all..) to HMRC.

DPS have given you deposit.  End of.  

Hi theartfuldodger - son owns it, I pay/ Paid rent to his bank account, dad is named on the agreement. Yes, I've paid all the rent, and on time. The only time an agent was involved was in setting up the original agreement, then handed over management to the landlord. thanks again for your help and advice

Lodger not dodger.  Blimey, dad named as landlord?  Few things wrong there, sound an ignorant pair.

Apologies Lodger and thank you again