Enhanced DBS Check For Care Home Job

elsien

Conan1Sett said:

Ok I've told them about my arrest years ago.

They said that I will receive my certificate in the post, although not sure when. I pray it's not too long. It's stuck at the police national computer search for now.

They said they'll make a judgement when I bring in my certificate. I shouldn't think a few arrests years ago should stop me? 

A few arrests? How many were there? 

It’s really a matter of judgement for your potential employer once the police have decided whether including that information is relevant or not. 

They need to decide whether they think you are a risk to the vulnerable adults you will be working with in the future. So the circumstances of the arrest could  be relevant to that. 

Savvy_Sue

You might find it helpful to get advice from https://www.nacro.org.uk/ or similar about what / how / when you need to disclose these things. You may also need to be clear about what actually happened: arrested and accepted a caution / arrested and no further action / arrested and found not guilty in court. And dates WILL matter, also there are some offences which will follow you, however long ago they were. 

Years ago I ran an afterschool club: an older applicant told me that they had a conviction for I don't remember what in their youth. It actually turned out to be several pages of convictions, but they were all a long time ago (everything was shown back then), and they were all non-violent and minor in nature. The committee chair and I agreed that we'd be happy to employ them, but I'm sure that others would have been more risk-averse. If the first I'd heard about these things was when the police check came back, I'd have been far less likely to want to employ them, because they would not have been honest with us. Harsh, but true. 

Conan1Sett

elsien said:

Conan1Sett said:

Ok I've told them about my arrest years ago.

They said that I will receive my certificate in the post, although not sure when. I pray it's not too long. It's stuck at the police national computer search for now.

They said they'll make a judgement when I bring in my certificate. I shouldn't think a few arrests years ago should stop me? 

A few arrests? How many were there? 

It’s really a matter of judgement for your potential employer once the police have decided whether including that information is relevant or not. 

They need to decide whether they think you are a risk to the vulnerable adults you will be working with in the future. So the circumstances of the arrest could  be relevant to that. 

Well there were 3 arrests involving my parents who are elderly. I'm hoping that I get the go-ahead due to the situation being a domestic every time. All the arrests went to no further action. It was when I still lived with my parents and the situation became highly stressed. 

I think the care home staff are keen that I work there but I really don't know if these arrests will be a disqualifier. 

Would the certificate also say that the arrests was made and that an elderly vulnerable person was the victim? 

Undervalued

Conan1Sett said:

elsien said:

Conan1Sett said:

Ok I've told them about my arrest years ago.

They said that I will receive my certificate in the post, although not sure when. I pray it's not too long. It's stuck at the police national computer search for now.

They said they'll make a judgement when I bring in my certificate. I shouldn't think a few arrests years ago should stop me? 

A few arrests? How many were there? 

It’s really a matter of judgement for your potential employer once the police have decided whether including that information is relevant or not. 

They need to decide whether they think you are a risk to the vulnerable adults you will be working with in the future. So the circumstances of the arrest could  be relevant to that. 

Well there were 3 arrests involving my parents who are elderly. I'm hoping that I get the go-ahead due to the situation being a domestic every time. All the arrests went to no further action. It was when I still lived with my parents and the situation became highly stressed. 

I think the care home staff are keen that I work there but I really don't know if these arrests will be a disqualifier. 

Would the certificate also say that the arrests was made and that an elderly vulnerable person was the victim? 

Only they can decide. Anybody commenting on here would be speculating. The last line I have highlighted really doesn't read well!

Have you given the potential employer a full and accurate account of the circumstances so that there are no nasty surprises?

Conan1Sett

Undervalued said:

Conan1Sett said:

elsien said:

Conan1Sett said:

Ok I've told them about my arrest years ago.

They said that I will receive my certificate in the post, although not sure when. I pray it's not too long. It's stuck at the police national computer search for now.

They said they'll make a judgement when I bring in my certificate. I shouldn't think a few arrests years ago should stop me? 

A few arrests? How many were there? 

It’s really a matter of judgement for your potential employer once the police have decided whether including that information is relevant or not. 

They need to decide whether they think you are a risk to the vulnerable adults you will be working with in the future. So the circumstances of the arrest could  be relevant to that. 

Well there were 3 arrests involving my parents who are elderly. I'm hoping that I get the go-ahead due to the situation being a domestic every time. All the arrests went to no further action. It was when I still lived with my parents and the situation became highly stressed. 

I think the care home staff are keen that I work there but I really don't know if these arrests will be a disqualifier. 

Would the certificate also say that the arrests was made and that an elderly vulnerable person was the victim? 

Only they can decide. Anybody commenting on here would be speculating. The last line I have highlighted really doesn't read well!

Have you given the potential employer a full and accurate account of the circumstances so that there are no nasty surprises?

No I have not I don't know how this would show on the certificate I am hoping it would show as a domestic. 

Undervalued

Conan1Sett said:

Undervalued said:

Conan1Sett said:

elsien said:

Conan1Sett said:

Ok I've told them about my arrest years ago.

They said that I will receive my certificate in the post, although not sure when. I pray it's not too long. It's stuck at the police national computer search for now.

They said they'll make a judgement when I bring in my certificate. I shouldn't think a few arrests years ago should stop me? 

A few arrests? How many were there? 

It’s really a matter of judgement for your potential employer once the police have decided whether including that information is relevant or not. 

They need to decide whether they think you are a risk to the vulnerable adults you will be working with in the future. So the circumstances of the arrest could  be relevant to that. 

Well there were 3 arrests involving my parents who are elderly. I'm hoping that I get the go-ahead due to the situation being a domestic every time. All the arrests went to no further action. It was when I still lived with my parents and the situation became highly stressed. 

I think the care home staff are keen that I work there but I really don't know if these arrests will be a disqualifier. 

Would the certificate also say that the arrests was made and that an elderly vulnerable person was the victim? 

Only they can decide. Anybody commenting on here would be speculating. The last line I have highlighted really doesn't read well!

Have you given the potential employer a full and accurate account of the circumstances so that there are no nasty surprises?

No I have not I don't know how this would show on the certificate I am hoping it would show as a domestic. 

Nor do I.

However my concern is that if the Enhanced DBS come back in any way "worse" than they are expecting the most likely reaction would be not to employ you.

Unless somebody can give you a definitive answer about what would be disclosed it is something of a gamble.

I have got to say that three arrests for situations where "an elderly vulnerable person was the victim" (your words) isn't a good look for employment in a care home. If you are totally blameless in all this then that is most unfortunate for you but if you were the person  running the care home would you employ somebody having received that disclosure?

Conan1Sett

Undervalued said:

Conan1Sett said:

Undervalued said:

Conan1Sett said:

elsien said:

Conan1Sett said:

Ok I've told them about my arrest years ago.

They said that I will receive my certificate in the post, although not sure when. I pray it's not too long. It's stuck at the police national computer search for now.

They said they'll make a judgement when I bring in my certificate. I shouldn't think a few arrests years ago should stop me? 

A few arrests? How many were there? 

It’s really a matter of judgement for your potential employer once the police have decided whether including that information is relevant or not. 

They need to decide whether they think you are a risk to the vulnerable adults you will be working with in the future. So the circumstances of the arrest could  be relevant to that. 

Well there were 3 arrests involving my parents who are elderly. I'm hoping that I get the go-ahead due to the situation being a domestic every time. All the arrests went to no further action. It was when I still lived with my parents and the situation became highly stressed. 

I think the care home staff are keen that I work there but I really don't know if these arrests will be a disqualifier. 

Would the certificate also say that the arrests was made and that an elderly vulnerable person was the victim? 

Only they can decide. Anybody commenting on here would be speculating. The last line I have highlighted really doesn't read well!

Have you given the potential employer a full and accurate account of the circumstances so that there are no nasty surprises?

No I have not I don't know how this would show on the certificate I am hoping it would show as a domestic. 

Nor do I.

However my concern is that if the Enhanced DBS come back in any way "worse" than they are expecting the most likely reaction would be not to employ you.

Unless somebody can give you a definitive answer about what would be disclosed it is something of a gamble.

I have got to say that three arrests for situations where "an elderly vulnerable person was the victim" (your words) isn't a good look for employment in a care home. If you are totally blameless in all this then that is most unfortunate for you but if you were the person  running the care home would you employ somebody having received that disclosure?

I don't know what would be disclosed on the certificate. I'm hoping it won't be so glaring. 

Hopefully it just says arrested and no further action. I am really hoping that because I have no convictions or even appearances in criminal court then I am good to go. 

RAS

The good news is that it appears all three arrests were in the same police authority area? So you've not got requests been transferred between authorities which slows things down.

But the fact that these arrests did not lead to conviction does not mean that the information will not be included on the DBS check. Where the police are aware of an offence that did not lead to conviction they have the right to provide the information to the employer if they think it is relevant. It may have to go to someone higher up the ladder in the police authority for a decision on this.

Were you a juvenile when this happened? 

Savvy_Sue

And honestly, the fact that it was a 'domestic' issue in a highly stressed situation isn't something which much improves the situation for me! Working in a care home can be highly stressed, and people are depending on you for personal care. 

IF you can honestly explain in mitigation that you were young, and that you have since learned how to handle stressed situations better, you'll do better than if you seem to be presenting it as "it was only my mum and dad, they overreacted and called the police, they were winding me up and I snapped".

Please consider this carefully ... 

theoretica

Conan1Sett said:

Undervalued said:

Conan1Sett said:

Undervalued said:

Conan1Sett said:

elsien said:

Conan1Sett said:

Ok I've told them about my arrest years ago.

They said that I will receive my certificate in the post, although not sure when. I pray it's not too long. It's stuck at the police national computer search for now.

They said they'll make a judgement when I bring in my certificate. I shouldn't think a few arrests years ago should stop me? 

A few arrests? How many were there? 

It’s really a matter of judgement for your potential employer once the police have decided whether including that information is relevant or not. 

They need to decide whether they think you are a risk to the vulnerable adults you will be working with in the future. So the circumstances of the arrest could  be relevant to that. 

Well there were 3 arrests involving my parents who are elderly. I'm hoping that I get the go-ahead due to the situation being a domestic every time. All the arrests went to no further action. It was when I still lived with my parents and the situation became highly stressed. 

I think the care home staff are keen that I work there but I really don't know if these arrests will be a disqualifier. 

Would the certificate also say that the arrests was made and that an elderly vulnerable person was the victim? 

Only they can decide. Anybody commenting on here would be speculating. The last line I have highlighted really doesn't read well!

Have you given the potential employer a full and accurate account of the circumstances so that there are no nasty surprises?

No I have not I don't know how this would show on the certificate I am hoping it would show as a domestic. 

Nor do I.

However my concern is that if the Enhanced DBS come back in any way "worse" than they are expecting the most likely reaction would be not to employ you.

Unless somebody can give you a definitive answer about what would be disclosed it is something of a gamble.

I have got to say that three arrests for situations where "an elderly vulnerable person was the victim" (your words) isn't a good look for employment in a care home. If you are totally blameless in all this then that is most unfortunate for you but if you were the person  running the care home would you employ somebody having received that disclosure?

I don't know what would be disclosed on the certificate. I'm hoping it won't be so glaring. 

Hopefully it just says arrested and no further action. I am really hoping that because I have no convictions or even appearances in criminal court then I am good to go. 

Arrests are only shown on an enhanced DBS if the police force supplying the information considers the arrests are relevant - so they will either not be on the DBS at all, or will have enough detail to show why they thought they were relevant.