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Pool of 2, carrying on if I keep my job

I'm really struggling emotionally.
Last Monday I was informed I was in a pool of 2 at risk of redundancy.
Basically cutting 2 jobs down to 1.
I have spent 2 years going out of my way to improve myself and I have improved many processes for the team.
If I'm not chosen to leave, how do I carry on working for a manager who I have now lost all respect for?

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  • Hoenir
    Hoenir Posts: 7,742 Forumite
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    Take the redundancy option. Working relationships are key. Being unhappy at work is very apparent. 
  • elsien
    elsien Posts: 36,237 Forumite
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    edited 2 December 2024 at 12:59AM
    Why have you lost respect for your manager? 

    It is probably not their decision that the company needs to make cuts and implement staffing changes, and presumably they are trying to do it in a transparent and fair way? 

    Yes, being made redundant is hard. Been there, done that. But the decision was taken in a much higher level than my individual manager although they were the one who had to implement the process. 
    All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.

    Pedant alert - it's could have, not could of.
  • Flugelhorn
    Flugelhorn Posts: 7,369 Forumite
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    they are probably hoping that one of you will look for (and get) another job - then they won't have to make one of you redundant. 


  • lincroft1710
    lincroft1710 Posts: 18,973 Forumite
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    If you feel like that why don't you volunteer to be made redundant?
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  • Exodi
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    If I'm not chosen to leave, how do I carry on working for a manager who I have now lost all respect for?
    Why have you lost all respect for them?

    If you were chosen not to leave, presumably that would mean they valued your contributions over the past 2 years?

    Businesses are being absolutely hammered by the increase to employer NI and this is coupled with the looming 6.7% increase to NMW. For most businesses this is a 5-6 figure hit off the bottom line and you'll find most businesses are needing to face similar difficult decisions.

    In fact my business will likely to the same in the coming months (though we agreed we'd get Christmas out the way first) and I certainly wouldn't want the managers to be blamed.

    Unfortunately, it was naive to think you can massively increase the costs to businesses, without expecting it to effect workers.
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  • Grumpy_chap
    Grumpy_chap Posts: 18,402 Forumite
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    Exodi said:

    Businesses are being absolutely hammered by the increase to employer NI and this is coupled with the looming 6.7% increase to NMW. 
    I also don't know why the OP has lost respect for the Employer / Manager - it seems as though the company are doing their best to go through proper and open process in selecting the stayer and the leaver from the two individuals.  Obviously, it is stressful for both individuals involved.

    As for the NMW and NI changes, this works out to an increase in cost to employ of around 10% for a full-time employee on NMW.  It will be very painful for businesses with large proportion of lower-paid staff.
  • Cobbler_tone
    Cobbler_tone Posts: 1,103 Forumite
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    What is the selection criteria?
    In a pool of 2 it should be straightforward to work out who is staying/going. 
    Sounds like you’d prefer to go judging by your opener.
  • Thank you all for taking time to reply.
    The company are not accepting volunteers for redundancy.  Of course I could still choose to hand my notice in. 
    The company is making many millions in profit.  The NI rise is not a consideration in this instance.

    Now the process is well and truly underway it is very clear that there are 4 people who perform the same job, but as 2 have different job titles they have been excluded from the pool.
    Although this has been raised in the consultations, along with providing evidence of the exact same wording within the job description.  We have been stonewalled when asking for an explanation.

    As you say.  There are other jobs.  I will move on.
  • Thank you all for taking time to reply.
    The company are not accepting volunteers for redundancy.  Of course I could still choose to hand my notice in. 
    The company is making many millions in profit.  The NI rise is not a consideration in this instance.

    Now the process is well and truly underway it is very clear that there are 4 people who perform the same job, but as 2 have different job titles they have been excluded from the pool.
    Although this has been raised in the consultations, along with providing evidence of the exact same wording within the job description.  We have been stonewalled when asking for an explanation.

    As you say.  There are other jobs.  I will move on.
    As above, you should be able to view the selection criteria, if they haven't shared already. With two of you it should be pretty easy to know who is likely to score higher. It sounds as though you have decided to go anyway. I personally wouldn't hand my notice in until it has played out, even if it meant hitting the sick!
  • Hoenir
    Hoenir Posts: 7,742 Forumite
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    The company is making many millions in profit.  The NI rise is not a consideration in this instance.


    Every business is under continual pressure to financially perform. Redundancies are never undertaken lightly.  
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