finding marriage registration

abc2019_2

anyone knows how to find if overseas marriage before citizenship has been registered in the uk. marriage was shariah based. i can see one can request a paper copy but which year to put it as for multiple years' input multiple payments will need to be made.

is the first year when marriage was based and a visa was applied for based for spouse?
thanks

marcia_

abc2019_2 said:

anyone knows how to find if overseas marriage before citizenship has been registered in the uk. marriage was shariah based. i can see one can request a paper copy but which year to put it as for multiple years' input multiple payments will need to be made.

is the first year when marriage was based and a visa was applied for based for spouse?
thanks

 You don't register overseas marriages which are not legal marriages. They would need to have had a civil marriage too.

Spendless

Overseas marriages can be legal. It depends if theyre recognised in the country you live in. I married abroad 25 years ago, my marriage is legal. There is no requirement to register the marriage here. 
Whether a shariah based wedding is considerd legal in the UK youd need to look up. 

marcia_

First answer on Google......

Although it is seen as a valid marriage ceremony within Islam, in UK law the Nikah ceremony is only recognised as a religious ceremony, which for that reason carries no legal weight.

Under English law, couples who are only in a Nikah and who did not get a civil marriage are considered to be a “co-habiting couple”. That means that they do not have the same rights as couples in a civil marriage.

And....

If you had your Nikah abroad; in a country which practices and recognises Sharia Law, your marriage will be recognised by UK law.

As a result, couples who have chosen to get their Nikah in this way will have access to the exact same benefits as couples within a civil marriage.

So depends on what country the marriage was in and if it was a legal marriage there 

https://cartwrightking.co.uk/articles/family/islamic-marriage-recognised-in-the-uk/#:~:text=Although%20it%20is%20seen%20as,%E2%80%9Cco%2Dhabiting%20couple%E2%80%9D.

Emmia

To be certain in the UK you should have a civil marriage too. This would also mean that you could have the benefits of marriage/civil partnership in relation to IHT, transfer of assets etc. which you don't get if your marriage is not legally recognised in the UK.

abc2019_2

the nikkah was in Pakistan. 
she came as my dependent and remained so until we both got citizenship. 
Now if we would like to get separated then would we have to follow divorce route or we are just 'co-habiting' couple from uk registration point of view therefore what's mine is mine and what's her is her's..

i would like to end uk side of registration so i am keeping full what's mine

TonyMMM

Your marriage in Pakistan is regarded as valid under UK law.... registration in this country is irrelevant.

Take legal advice.

marcia_

abc2019_2 said:

the nikkah was in Pakistan. 
she came as my dependent and remained so until we both got citizenship. 
Now if we would like to get separated then would we have to follow divorce route or we are just 'co-habiting' couple from uk registration point of view therefore what's mine is mine and what's her is her's..

i would like to end uk side of registration so i am keeping full what's mine

 If you are deemed legally married in the UK, which it sounds like you are as the UK recognises Pakistan marriage as legal. Then whats yours doesn't come in to it. A divorce and Courts would look at splitting assets savings and pensions from both of you. 

DullGreyGuy

Whilst a Shiah marriage wouldn't be legal if performed in the UK the UK recognises almost all marriages that are considered legal in the country they were performed in. So Shiah marriages are legal in Pakistan so would be considered legal here. 

The UK doesn't have a mechanism to register an overseas marriage in the UK. If you need to prove your marriage at some point in the future you use the documentation from Pakistan, potentially needing a certified English translation depending on exactly what you need it for. 

Emmia said:

To be certain in the UK you should have a civil marriage too. This would also mean that you could have the benefits of marriage/civil partnership in relation to IHT, transfer of assets etc. which you don't get if your marriage is not legally recognised in the UK.

That would be illegal @Emmia, someone who is already legally married, as the OP is, cannot have a second marriage.  "Renewing your vows" isn't legally a marriage, before thats mentioned. 

Emmia

DullGreyGuy said:

Whilst a Shiah marriage wouldn't be legal if performed in the UK the UK recognises almost all marriages that are considered legal in the country they were performed in. So Shiah marriages are legal in Pakistan so would be considered legal here. 

The UK doesn't have a mechanism to register an overseas marriage in the UK. If you need to prove your marriage at some point in the future you use the documentation from Pakistan, potentially needing a certified English translation depending on exactly what you need it for. 

Emmia said:

To be certain in the UK you should have a civil marriage too. This would also mean that you could have the benefits of marriage/civil partnership in relation to IHT, transfer of assets etc. which you don't get if your marriage is not legally recognised in the UK.

That would be illegal @Emmia, someone who is already legally married, as the OP is, cannot have a second marriage.  "Renewing your vows" isn't legally a marriage, before thats mentioned. 

If the marriage is done in a country or a way which is not recognised by UK law, they wouldn't be "remarrying" legally. It depends where the marriage is done, and how. It was not clear from the OP where and how they'd married when I posted.