Always appeal PCNs

now3d

Life is expensive enough, without the council fleecing us as well.

PCNs are parking tickets issued by the council typically. Or agents on behalf.

Many are invalid. It's cost prohibitive for councils to take losing cases to the Traffic Penalty Tribunal (these are trained independent lawyers), councils know this, they don't want to look stupid in public, so they may not even bother to present a case to the tribunal. They're looking for easy collection of money, and I'll only pay up if the TPT say so! Same way we wouldn't plead guilty to anything else we didn't do.

First don't worry about the 14 day discount to £35 - remember you're the innocent party, no contravention occurred.

Use Chat GPT to generate a Subject access request letter. Get all photos, specify originals including metadata.

Common reasons tickets are invalid, no contravention occurred.

Faded double yellow lines, not visible.

Zero second duration 9:21 - 9:21 means the same as 9:21:00 - 9:21:00 therefore a zero second duration is not a valid Observations Period.

Photos have different times to the PCN. Photos 5 mins before the time on the ticket are invalid. Likewise 5 mins after.

Invalid duration period, 15 mins is hard to challenge, under 10 is insufficient observation (enforcement officer must demonstrate no Unloading)

Write to the chief executive if you only get fobbed off by parking staff. Be polite, it always works. Be reasonable, and do keep going back if there are dishonest statements (that is statements that are not evidenced, ie just their admin staff opinions) made by council staff, even after their "final decision letter", the chief executive will always reply (see CEO Email COM) to look up and send a polite letter.

Ask the council DPO if they're a registered Solicitor. Most aren't legally qualified, so then we see they lack credibility and competency in their position.

Grizebeck

What awful advice and lots of factual errors

now3d

Grizebeck said:

What awful advice and lots of factual errors

What an uninformed response, no detail in anything from Grizey

Coupon-mad

He is correct.  Too many errors, sorry.

now3d

Coupon-mad said:

He is correct.  Too many errors, sorry.

If you don't understand the information, I don't have time to convince you, sorry.

fisherjim

now3d said:

Coupon-mad said:

He is correct.  Too many errors, sorry.

If you don't understand the information, I don't have time to convince you, sorry.

I think we understand but most of it is such rubbish no one can be bothered to spend time answering and you obviously haven't even researched this forum where we have solicitors, and a member of the government consultation group on the private parking industry, 16 years of posts, and a group of regulars that have seen everything.

Anyone that advises using Chat GPT for this cannot be taken seriously!

Also, why not try taking your misguided advice, which you haven't even referenced to the actual specialism of this forum, to https://www.ftla.uk who will give YOU some potted advice.