Landlord left us without washing machine

newsgroupmonkey_

Jude57 said:

newsgroupmonkey_ said:

penners324 said:

To be fair to the landlord it's not particularly likely a washing machine door will just break, especially one that's only 7 years old. It'd probably need opening repeatedly in hard way or leaning on repeatedly.

On the flip side, betterment.

Look it up.

https://www.mydeposits.co.uk/content-hub/a-guide-on-the-life-expectancy-of-rental-property-products/

6 years for a washing machine. Case closed.

Mine's 21 years old. But it was brand new when I got it and I treat my belongings carefully, having worked hard to afford them. In this case, the machine was second hand when installed and however careful the OP might be, there's no knowing whether the previous owner was or was not heavy handed. Certainly there's no right to betterment but I take issue with the implication in your statement that 6 years is a reasonable lifespan for a washing machine - especially on a money saving site ;-)

Please do take issue with it. I'd expect a washing machine to last more than 6 years too.

But as I said above, look up betterment. There are guidelines that say how long something should last and a washing machine is 6 years.

So the OP will win every time.

Murphybear

newsgroupmonkey_ said:

Jude57 said:

newsgroupmonkey_ said:

penners324 said:

To be fair to the landlord it's not particularly likely a washing machine door will just break, especially one that's only 7 years old. It'd probably need opening repeatedly in hard way or leaning on repeatedly.

On the flip side, betterment.

Look it up.

https://www.mydeposits.co.uk/content-hub/a-guide-on-the-life-expectancy-of-rental-property-products/

6 years for a washing machine. Case closed.

Mine's 21 years old. But it was brand new when I got it and I treat my belongings carefully, having worked hard to afford them. In this case, the machine was second hand when installed and however careful the OP might be, there's no knowing whether the previous owner was or was not heavy handed. Certainly there's no right to betterment but I take issue with the implication in your statement that 6 years is a reasonable lifespan for a washing machine - especially on a money saving site ;-)

Please do take issue with it. I'd expect a washing machine to last more than 6 years too.

But as I said above, look up betterment. There are guidelines that say how long something should last and a washing machine is 6 years.

So the OP will win every time.

I agree, 6 years isn’t a lot, I would expect them to last longer.  A lot, of course, depends on the make.  Miele are one of the best but they are expensive.  Our Miele washer-dryer is ready to get its pension (in terms of washer-dryer years).   . 

The other thing that needs to be considered is how often it will be used.  A family with young children/babies will use it a lot more than a single person for example.  

Hoenir

newsgroupmonkey_ said:

Jude57 said:

newsgroupmonkey_ said:

penners324 said:

To be fair to the landlord it's not particularly likely a washing machine door will just break, especially one that's only 7 years old. It'd probably need opening repeatedly in hard way or leaning on repeatedly.

On the flip side, betterment.

Look it up.

https://www.mydeposits.co.uk/content-hub/a-guide-on-the-life-expectancy-of-rental-property-products/

6 years for a washing machine. Case closed.

Mine's 21 years old. But it was brand new when I got it and I treat my belongings carefully, having worked hard to afford them. In this case, the machine was second hand when installed and however careful the OP might be, there's no knowing whether the previous owner was or was not heavy handed. Certainly there's no right to betterment but I take issue with the implication in your statement that 6 years is a reasonable lifespan for a washing machine - especially on a money saving site ;-)

Please do take issue with it. I'd expect a washing machine to last more than 6 years too.

But as I said above, look up betterment. There are guidelines that say how long something should last and a washing machine is 6 years.

So the OP will win every time.

Never had a door hanging off anything. Not a mechanical  issue. Was caused by something. 

GDB2222

theoretica said:

Best way of fixing the washing machine is to replace the part, but could a patch keep it limping on for a few more weeks?

 Agreed. 

I did this for an old washing machine. The door surround cost £30, and it took 5 minutes to fix. Ours broke because someone walked into the door when it was open. I imagine that the op will spend far more than £30 at the laundromat and still end up with a big argument at the end of the tenancy.

Grumpy_chap

Jude57 said:

newsgroupmonkey_ said:

https://www.mydeposits.co.uk/content-hub/a-guide-on-the-life-expectancy-of-rental-property-products/

6 years for a washing machine. Case closed.

I take issue with the implication in your statement that 6 years is a reasonable lifespan for a washing machine - especially on a money saving site ;-)

The link shared upthread is a guide as to how long items last in a rented property and, actually, the shorter the timeframe, the better (and more money saving) for the Tenant.

If the washing machine was, say, 8 years old and is now deceased, the LL may try to claim some contribution from the T.  The T can defend that request by reference to "typical" life expectancy, hence avoid the contribution to replacement cost.

newsgroupmonkey_

Hoenir said:

newsgroupmonkey_ said:

Jude57 said:

newsgroupmonkey_ said:

penners324 said:

To be fair to the landlord it's not particularly likely a washing machine door will just break, especially one that's only 7 years old. It'd probably need opening repeatedly in hard way or leaning on repeatedly.

On the flip side, betterment.

Look it up.

https://www.mydeposits.co.uk/content-hub/a-guide-on-the-life-expectancy-of-rental-property-products/

6 years for a washing machine. Case closed.

Mine's 21 years old. But it was brand new when I got it and I treat my belongings carefully, having worked hard to afford them. In this case, the machine was second hand when installed and however careful the OP might be, there's no knowing whether the previous owner was or was not heavy handed. Certainly there's no right to betterment but I take issue with the implication in your statement that 6 years is a reasonable lifespan for a washing machine - especially on a money saving site ;-)

Please do take issue with it. I'd expect a washing machine to last more than 6 years too.

But as I said above, look up betterment. There are guidelines that say how long something should last and a washing machine is 6 years.

So the OP will win every time.

Never had a door hanging off anything. Not a mechanical  issue. Was caused by something. 

Matters not. As the OP said, the door became looser and looser until it fell off.
He's not going to lose against TDS or whatever.

As above. Betterment. Look it up. You can't claim for something that's made its full life.

If you have a carpet that has an expected lifespan of 10 years and 15 years in, you rip it, tough on the Landlord.

newsgroupmonkey_

I find it hard that intelligent people don't understand betterment or know how to Google it.

Here you go

https://www.mydeposits.co.uk/content-hub/a-guide-on-the-life-expectancy-of-rental-property-products/

GDB2222

newsgroupmonkey_ said:

I find it hard that intelligent people don't understand betterment or know how to Google it.

Here you go

https://www.mydeposits.co.uk/content-hub/a-guide-on-the-life-expectancy-of-rental-property-products/

This washing machine has not reached the end of its life, though. It needs a new door, which is not an expensive repair. Expected life is an average, in any case. 

TripleH

Two points to consider, especially if you go to arbitration (deposit scheme),

1. When you spotted an issue you let the landlord / agents know straight away (save this email as evidence).

2. You were not advised to cease usage of the washing machine in any further correspondence.

If it goes to dispute, you claim full deposit since you notified an issue and followed instructions issued (assume you did).

That should help with the issues around the door and defending the landlords claim.

That there isn't a washing machine may be harder as it could be argued that you have a sink so can hand-wash, or use a local launderette. Now I know these are not the best solutions, but any claim you make will be countered with these. Unless you can argue the nearest launderette is 3 hours away / the sinks are so grimey that clothes emerge dirtier from them, then you may struggle.