APCOA PCN: Parked in electric charging bay

FirTree123

Hi all

I parked in an electric bay with a view to paying for the charge when I got on the platform at the train station. It appears the particular charger was broken and the payment failed on multiple attempts (I have screen shots of this), at which point I was on the train to work. 

I returned to a window PCN and APCOA have followed through with a letter.

The T&Cs at the station don’t reference electric bays but there is a small sign at the bottom of the charger which says the bay is for charging only. 

I think I need to respond today, so any help appreciated. 

Thanks

Gr1pr

APCOA Penalty Notice at a railway station, so no keeper liability 

Study other recent APCOA train station railway threads on here, they will have the template to use for no keeper liability that you use, appealing as keeper around day 26 following the date on the PCN you showed us , information below 

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/80507251#Comment_80507251?utm_source=community-search&utm_medium=organic-search&utm_term=APCOA+POFA+appeal+

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81020389#Comment_81020389?utm_source=community-search&utm_medium=organic-search&utm_term=APCOA+Penalty+Notice+

You do everything near the deadlines to string this out past 6 months 

No blabbing about who was driving or about the incident itself, definitely not ( the circumstances are irrelevant and you definitely do not infer who was driving the vehicle. )

You won't be paying a penny if you do everything above correctly, no mistakes , definitely appeal online, today, with the template 

Coupon-mad

At POPLA stage, some people have used the point that the railway landowner authority only allows APCOA to issue 'parking charge notices'. Not Penalty Notices & NTOs.

Keep that powder dry.  Don't forget it.

Le_Kirk

As a genuine question to the OP with me not being an EV owner (still ICE) and therefore no need of EV charging bays, is it OK to leave a car on charge whilst you travel to work,  work,  then travel home? Does it take all day to charge?  Does it not damage the battery? Do the rules allow for cars to be left that long thus denying some one else use of the bay? 

FirTree123

Le_Kirk said:

As a genuine question to the OP with me not being an EV owner (still ICE) and therefore no need of EV charging bays, is it OK to leave a car on charge whilst you travel to work,  work,  then travel home? Does it take all day to charge?  Does it not damage the battery? Do the rules allow for cars to be left that long thus denying some one else use of the bay? 

The car will manage the charge and will charge to the level you set, so from a battery perspective it’s all good. On a 7kW charger (typical for a train station), it will take 6-8hrs for a full charge. 

Some public chargers will have restrictions around the maximum length of stay, but these tend to be on the high street. There is rarely a minimum length of stay in a private/multi-storey car park. Whilst there’s an etiquette point - you should generally aim to move your car when you’ve finished charging - tends to be that this isn’t the case around transportation networks (train station car parks, airports, park and ride services). 

FirTree123

Thanks all - super helpful. 

Gr1pr

Some private land charging points require the driver to input their VRM into a tablet to exempt them from the parking rules.  Others have time limits such as 90 minutes on McDonald's car parks etc,  even less at petrol stations, we see plenty of examples of PCNs on here on private property where chargers are installed , so always check the signs and comply, even when the battery isn't at 80%