Parking group - Leaving site

Labman789

Parked at a parking group car park at dalby way Middlesbrough. Received a notice to keeper with a £60/100 charge attached. We parked there and walked to the adjacent mcdonald's and they have images of this. I'm going to reply stating no where on the sign (Google maps screenshot attached) does it state that mcdonald's is not one of the businesses attached to the car park. Also no where does it say you are leaving site to get to the mcdonald's. Should this be enough to end the dispute? Thanks 

fisherjim

Why are you admitting to anything?

Where does it say you cannot leave site anyway?

It states the driver must stay on site how do they know who the driver was?

What does some random photos of people walking prove?

Don't send anything admitting to anything, read the newbies thread, don't admit to being the driver, there is a one size fits all appeal already written for you.

Coupon-mad

POFA or non-POFA version NTK?  You can look for yourself:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6483542/a-thread-of-pictures-of-parking-firm-ntks/p1

Or is it just a windscreen PCN?

Labman789

Hi what is my best way to respond to this now? Thanks 

Coupon-mad

POPLA is already covered in the NEWBIES thread third post.

Could you answer my earlier question? I gave you the link to look & find the answer.

Gr1pr

So its now a minuet, not a minute. 😬

Parking companies almost always reject appeals, no profit in accepting the appeal 

You dont respond, you either appeal to popla as keeper, or ignore them , plus ignore any future debt collectors letters too

Labman789

Coupon-mad said:

POFA or non-POFA version NTK?  You can look for yourself:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6483542/a-thread-of-pictures-of-parking-firm-ntks/p1

Or is it just a windscreen PCN?

Hi sorry missed this. I'm not entirely sure but I assume non pofa as was not received within 14 days which looks like a requirement. 

Grizebeck

Use the Newbies and deny leaving site in your popla appeal. Simple.

fisherjim

"Hi what is my best way to respond to this now?"

I assume you went ahead with your own appeal against the advice given?

You can't respond to that the next stage is POPLA where you DO NOT TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED ON THE DAY!

POPLA only consider, the law, the signage, the contract, landowner authority etc. not mitigation.

Take no notice of all the claims about complying with this and that, our signs are clear etc etc from the dimwits they lie about everything.

They say their signage is clear, so where is the map of the site boundary?

Does it say the occupants / driver can only visit shops ABC not D?

What does a photo of a random person prove?

If leaving site was such a big deal why take photos instead of pointing out the problem to the person they aledge did it?

But just deny leaving site as @Grizebeck states to POPLA it's just an add on trap to weed out weak people.

NO PPC to our knowledge has ever tried a leaving site case in court since a judge threatened so called legal representing the PPC, with a night or two at her majesties pleasure (the toothbrush case) some years ago!

Don't try POPLA without running your appeal past here.

Half_way

just to make sure it's clear,  the legal that was threatened in the  toothbrush case was a representative for the parking company.
ibbotson toothbrush 

Bazarius

In VCS v Ibbotson - the judge threatened prison due to the fact that VCS had no standing to issue court claims - not because of issuing pcns for leaving site .   

VCS was warned to discontinue the claims that were still live otherwise SRS would need to bring his toothbrush for being in contempt of the court.