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Is it ever too late to appeal?

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  • Le_Kirk
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    Key dates:
    I submitted the AOS after 4pm on 05/09/25. The issue date for the claim is 21/08/25.
    I have holiday planned for the 10-17th September.
    Some dates for you: -
    Issue Date     Served Date    AoS Due      Defence Due
    21/08/25         26/08/25          09/09/25        23/09/25
  • Umkomaas
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    Go through all the required stages of defending this and DCB Legal will discontinue by early next year. 

    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • Hi all, sorry for the slow reply. Could you please check you're happy with the wording here & I'll submit my defence asap (this follows just below point 10 in the defence template)

    "Please note the Defendant has recently changed address and politely requests all future documents pertaining to this claim are served to the below address:
    [my address].

    I, the defendant, believes that the facts stated in this defence are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.

    Signed, [my name]."
  • Can you post a copy of the claim form redacting personal data including VRM, password etc. but leave all dates showing.
    See attached/below, let me know if I've missed redacting anything please. Thank you
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 15 September at 2:22PM
    Can you post a copy of the claim form redacting personal data including VRM, password etc. but leave all dates showing.
    See attached/below, let me know if I've missed redacting anything please. Thank you

     Could you please check you're happy with the wording here & I'll submit my defence asap (this follows just below point 10 in the defence template)

    "Please note the Defendant has recently changed address and politely requests all future documents pertaining to this claim are served to the below address:

    [my address].

    I, the defendant, believes that the facts stated in this defence are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.


    Signed, [my name]."
    No, I see why you added that but none of that is OK:

    - you can't just bury the vital new info about a new address for service in the defence. Nobody will read it and the DQ will be sent to your old address and you'll get a CCJ behind your back!

    - when putting a defence in on MCOL you don't add a statement of truth or signature, as it is already implied and accounted for by you using the the online system to defend.

    - you need to use the special Template Defence for claims where no breach is pleaded. The one talking about Chan and Akande case law.

    It is linked twice in the Template Defence thread. Use that with no added info.

    Then two things:

    1.  Email the CNBC case progression email and the litigation email for CEL (search the forum) to tell them the service address for the Defendant has changed to X and they must erase the old address (which was Y).

    2.  Please do the government's Public Consultation. We need every poster to complete this vital survey before the deadline next week.

    See this thread:

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6617396/parking-code-of-practice-consultation-now-extended-closes-friday-26th-september/p1

    We understand that you may need some pointers. It looks laborious, we get that. It doesn't matter; no knowledge is needed except re your own experiences so you can call out a scam industry and you'll protect millions of motorists and help change the law. 

    I've written some guidance to help focus new posters on the issues. I've covered almost every question, providing ideas if you agree with our stance on things like DRFs, which we say must be banned.

    Ordinary people like you are falling victim to this scam 15 million times per annum. Motorists need your voice added please.

    CLOSES ON FRIDAY 26th SEPTEMBER.


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  • Can you post a copy of the claim form redacting personal data including VRM, password etc. but leave all dates showing.
    See attached/below, let me know if I've missed redacting anything please. Thank you

     Could you please check you're happy with the wording here & I'll submit my defence asap (this follows just below point 10 in the defence template)

    "Please note the Defendant has recently changed address and politely requests all future documents pertaining to this claim are served to the below address:

    [my address].

    I, the defendant, believes that the facts stated in this defence are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.


    Signed, [my name]."
    No, I see why you added that but none of that is OK:

    - you can't just bury the vital new info about a new address for service in the defence. Nobody will read it and the DQ will be sent to your old address and you'll get a CCJ behind your back!

    - when putting a defence in on MCOL you don't add a statement of truth or signature, as it is already implied and accounted for by you using the the online system to defend.

    - you need to use the special Template Defence for claims where no breach is pleaded. The one talking about Chan and Akande case law.

    It is linked twice in the Template Defence thread. Use that with no added info.

    Then two things:

    1.  Email the CNBC case progression email and the litigation email for CEL (search the forum) to tell them the service address for the Defendant has changed to X and they must erase the old address (which was Y).

    2.  Please do the government's Public Consultation. We need every poster to complete this vital survey before the deadline next week.

    See this thread:

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6617396/parking-code-of-practice-consultation-now-extended-closes-friday-26th-september/p1

    We understand that you may need some pointers. It looks laborious, we get that. It doesn't matter; no knowledge is needed except re your own experiences so you can call out a scam industry and you'll protect millions of motorists and help change the law. 

    I've written some guidance to help focus new posters on the issues. I've covered almost every question, providing ideas if you agree with our stance on things like DRFs, which we say must be banned.

    Ordinary people like you are falling victim to this scam 15 million times per annum. Motorists need your voice added please.

    CLOSES ON FRIDAY 26th SEPTEMBER.


    Brilliant, thank you. To clarify, the special defence template should go in point 3 of the general defence template correct? Or is there a separate full template I've missed?

    "3. With regards to the POC in question, two recent persuasive appeal judgments in Civil Enforcement Limited v Chan (Ref. E7GM9W44) and Car Park Management Service Ltd v Akande..." (this one, right?)

    I'll get on with emailing them re the address change asap.

    I'll look at filing out that form when I get time, thank you for linking that.
  • Coupon-mad
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    I can't recall if the linked defence is a full defence TBH! But isn't it self explanatory?

    3. With regards to the POC in question, two recent persuasive appeal judgments in Civil Enforcement Limited v Chan (Ref. E7GM9W44) and Car Park Management Service Ltd v Akande..." (this one, right?)

    Yep!
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  • I can't recall if the linked defence is a full defence TBH! But isn't it self explanatory?

    3. With regards to the POC in question, two recent persuasive appeal judgments in Civil Enforcement Limited v Chan (Ref. E7GM9W44) and Car Park Management Service Ltd v Akande..." (this one, right?)

    Yep!
    Nope it's perfectly self explanatory! I just wanted to be 100% I was following the correct guidance & understanding you correctly.

    I'll post again here for any updates / future questions I have, thank you so much for the help so far :)
  • Coupon-mad
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    No worries. Only ten days or do to do the Government survey! It takes a few hours, just so you know. Hence the guidance to try to help.
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