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I have a stupid question - does the NTK need to have a time as well as date to be POFA compliant? I do not understand whether the "the period of parking to which the notice relates" is sufficiently addressed by merely giving a date but not a time of the alleged parking contravention?

Please can I kindly ask to refrain from passive aggressive comments as my anxiety is already through the roof! Many thanks and appreciate your advice

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  • Fruitcake
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    The NTK has to satisfy several criteria to be PoFA compliant. If you are unsure, I suggest you post both sides of the NTK. Redact personal data but leave dates showing.
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  • Coupon-mad
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    There is a persuasive appeal decision about no 'period of parking':

    Brennan v Premier Parking Solutions

     
    (Plymouth Court, on appeal to HHJ Mitchel) ref H6DP632H, 21/8/2023 (finding: no 'period of parking' on a NTK meant that it was a non-compliant notice and a keeper could not beheld liable).

    I am on a device tonight with no access to the PDF link for that, unless @bargepole or @ParkingMad see this and can supply it.  We were given it this Summer by @troublemaker22 courtesy of Jackson Yamba.
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  • cwossy23
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    Evening both, thanks for your replies. Please see attached. 
    I think it does follow POFA but there is no time given for the alleged contravention
  • Coupon-mad
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    Yep. So you can adduce the appeal case. 
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  • Hi all, me again. How do I get a copy of the above mentioned case please? I'm in the process of writing the WS.
    Many thanks in advance!
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 29 December 2024 at 1:32AM
    I'll put a link to Brennan and to Shoebridge (another similar appeal judgment) on the thread by @Ulrich when I get on my laptop sometime in the next few days.
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    That's it, job done, well done, now for inclusion in the DCB Legal discontinuation thread of shame. Over we go ....
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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    Ooh well done - yes, you won!

    Happy New Year and...

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  • cwossy23
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    Thank you very much Coupon and Umkomaas, you’ve built an incredible community!
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