NI??

Brie

Sarahspangles said:

They want to validate that everyone is legally entitled to be working, and they can’t just ask a subset of people without appearing to discriminate.

Wouldn't it make more sense to ask for proof that everyone is entitled to work?  For some that will be their birth certificate and for others is will be a copy of their visa - assuming they have it.  Not everyone does of course, in which case they would need to get a new copy.

Sarahspangles

Dazed_and_C0nfused said:

Sarahspangles said:

They want to validate that everyone is legally entitled to be working, and they can’t just ask a subset of people without appearing to discriminate.

But does having a National Insurance number mean you are guaranteed to be working legally?

It would transfer the responsibility from the employer who is required to check to DWP for incorrectly issuing an NI number. For recent contracts I’ve also had photo ID checked to validate I am the individual named on the doc that gives my NINO

Sarahspangles

Brie said:

Sarahspangles said:

They want to validate that everyone is legally entitled to be working, and they can’t just ask a subset of people without appearing to discriminate.

Wouldn't it make more sense to ask for proof that everyone is entitled to work?  For some that will be their birth certificate and for others is will be a copy of their visa - assuming they have it.  Not everyone does of course, in which case they would need to get a new copy.

No idea, when I’ve hired I’ve just followed the .gov.uk guidance

Andy_L

Dazed_and_C0nfused said:

Sarahspangles said:

They want to validate that everyone is legally entitled to be working, and they can’t just ask a subset of people without appearing to discriminate.

But does having a National Insurance number mean you are guaranteed to be working legally?

No. A forign worker who was previously working here legally here could have one issued then and subsequently come back to the UK without the right to work but still have that NI number

Savvy_Sue

When I was checking Right to Work, I had to see at least 2 documents, more if one of them was not photo ID (ideally a UK passport). It can be done without photo ID, but RtW can't be done on proof of NI alone. 

The employer doesn't seem to answering the WHY question.

Andy_L

Savvy_Sue said:

When I was checking Right to Work, I had to see at least 2 documents, more if one of them was not photo ID (ideally a UK passport). It can be done without photo ID, but RtW can't be done on proof of NI alone. 

The employer doesn't seem to answering the WHY question.

I suspect incompetence. A reckon a reasonable instruction to "just make sure we've got everyone's NINO right" has morphed into "and we must check it against some official documentation" as its come down the chain

Emmia

If I was the OP I'd just get the letter from HMRC providing what the employer wants, and just move on with life. 

It's possible they've identified an error in some of their NI records and want to ensure they have the right information for all employees, or there might be another reason - but it's easy to provide,  so I'd just do it.

Savvy_Sue

Andy_L said:

Savvy_Sue said:

When I was checking Right to Work, I had to see at least 2 documents, more if one of them was not photo ID (ideally a UK passport). It can be done without photo ID, but RtW can't be done on proof of NI alone. 

The employer doesn't seem to answering the WHY question.

I suspect incompetence. A reckon a reasonable instruction to "just make sure we've got everyone's NINO right" has morphed into "and we must check it against some official documentation" as its come down the chain

I tend to agree with you! It would be clear if the employer would just answer the WHY question!

sheramber

Since the employer issues the P60 the NI number on it will be that which the employer holds.

It is no proof that it is the employee’ correct NI number. 

penners324

Doesn't matter why. Just download or request through your HMRC online account