APCOA Parking Charge Notice - Really this bad?

pinkman91

Hi, hoping the users of the forum can put my mind at rest on this...

As the keeper, I have received a Parking Charge Notice from APCOA for "...without a valid payment/permit".

From the really helpful replies in this forum, I believe I should just send them the ‘not PoFA’ reply after a bit of a wait, in the ‘other’ reasons for appeal box. What I can’t quite get my head around is HOW BAD this PCN seems to be... on it, the location given is literally “Norwich (ANPR)” – an entire city!  

Reading the PFoA 2012 surely this falls foul of Schedule 4 Para 9 (2)(a) from the start… I don’t know if it is relevant land because it’s referencing the whole city, not specific land. I have seen other replies referencing 9(2)(f) which mine, like all others, does fall short on, but I suspect its bad enough to just send a generic “not compliant with PoFA and I am not sharing the drivers details”?

It doesn’t really satisfy period of parking either, since the images with the vehicle have timestamps but I am advised there was payment covering most of this period with a couple of hours gap in the middle (parking rates are for 24hrs only).

Are they all this bad? I can’t get my head around how easy this appeal sounds on the basis of such a weak notice, and that they wouldn’t even attempt to fix the shortcomings?! In reality a payment app failure caused the PCN issue, but it doesn't even seem worth trying to raise that.

Thanks in advance for thoughts...

Coupon-mad

 I suspect its bad enough to just send a generic “not compliant with PoFA and I am not sharing the drivers details”?

All APCOA PCNS can be beaten just by saying that, because they don't use the POFA (and they don't have to).

location given is literally “Norwich (ANPR)” – an entire city!  

LOL.  Airport or Railway?

PCN or PN?

Grizebeck

they can be beaten with your eyes closed

pinkman91

Thanks for the rapid reply...

It is definitely a Parking Charge Notice, no reference to bylaws or penalty anywhere on it.

The land is beside a Network Rail Delivery Unit so I believe it is NR land, not operator managed, so it is railway I would expect but the PCN makes no reference to either of those, as I say it just says "Norwich (ANPR)". Not even a postcode or name of a road, which is what is making me doubt myself with how bad it is!

Gr1pr

Just use the typical not compliant with POFA appeal as seen in other APCOA and Smart Parking and Horizon  threads, regardless of the location, appealing as keeper 

No blabbing about who was driving or about the incident itself 

pinkman91

Many thanks for the replies, I will appeal as suggested and let you know the outcome here.

pinkman91

Confirming that APCOA cancelled this today. Not sure if they have something on the appeals which just times out, given the generic reply. 

Anyway for reference of others below is the appeal wording sent and the cancellation reply. 

Many thanks to those who posted the helpful information on this forum and replied to the topic.

Appeal:

And reply, (not even a cheeky don't try this next time):

Coupon-mad

Standard.  They knew they could not win.

Easy when you know how!