Parking Charge from Saba

panicpanda

**I am now drafting

Coupon-mad

panicpanda said:

Apologies for the delay in getting back.

I complained via "paymyparkingcharge" as per the NTK as keeper but they said I cannot appeal as keeper, only the driver can and so did not give me an option to appeal to POPLA.

Please show us that reply that unfairly denied you the right to appeal.

We DON'T need to see yet another pic of Moorside's LBC! Search the forum. Find some threads like yours. Copy what they did.

panicpanda

Again having trouble in uploading image!
here’s the email in text form received from ‘appeals@paymyparkingcharges.com’

Good afternoon,

Thank you for your correspondence.

Please be advised, we can only process an appeal from the driver on the day.

Please have the driver appeal with their full name and postal address within 7 days of the date of this email.

Many thanks

LDast

You can ignore everything you receive about this fake Penalty Notice. Have you reported Moorside Legal to the SRA yet? Just the threat of issuing a civil claim for debt for an alleged Penalty Notice issued under statutory law is enough to get them into a lot of trouble.

Do you not understand that any Penalty Notice issued under railway bylaws can only be enforced by the TOC/landowner laying information before a magistrate and then convincing them to issue a summons. Moorside Legal nor SABA have any authority to do that and any threat to try and recover an alleged Penalty debt though the civil courts is illegal.

At the end of the day, they can't prosecute a fake Penalty Notice and they can't treat it as a civil contractual debt. 

ChirpyChicken

It will time out 6 months from date of issue

panicpanda

Thanks for your inputs @ChirpyChicken and @LDast.
This is already past 6 months but I will revert to the LOC as per the advice from this forum and yes, will report them to SRA as well. 

kryten3000

CEO number "Null" on that notice to driver?!

Saba have tried to bring civil claims in the past via a different legal firm, Askews Legal LLP trading as "Debt Claims Solicitors.  There are a few threads on here about these and it didn't end well for Saba.

I actually attended one case directions hearing where the DJ (eventually) dismissed the case because they were being asked to rule on a criminal matter, although it took some convincing. 

Coupon-mad

panicpanda said:

Apologies for the delay in getting back.

I complained via "paymyparkingcharge" as per the NTK as keeper but they said I cannot appeal as keeper, only the driver can and so did not give me an option to appeal to POPLA.

panicpanda said:

Again having trouble in uploading image!
here’s the email in text form: 

received from

‘appeals@paymyparkingcharge.com’

Good afternoon,

Thank you for your correspondence.

Please be advised, we can only process an appeal from the driver on the day.

Please have the driver appeal with their full name and postal address within 7 days of the date of this email.

Many thanks

panicpanda said:

NTK @Coupon-mad

But this one is a Parking Charge (not a Penalty Notice). Either way, they could not deny your right to appeal and you aren't liable as keeper on railway land.

The NTK shows they added £27 at a stage where they cannot.

LDast

Coupon-mad said:
But this one is a Parking Charge (not a Penalty Notice). Either way, they could not deny your right to appeal.

In which case ignore everything about a fake PN. Just wait for the N1SDT Claim Form from the incompetents at Moorside Legal where they will fill to comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a) and you can use the defence that includes the Chan and Akande argument for the claim to be struck out at allocation stage.

KeithP

Which railway station carpark are we talking about here?
I ask because seeing this in one of yesterday's posts...

                                 
...leads me to think that this might be a Transport for London car park. Is it?