Carflow PCN at Cambridge leisure

KingLRizzla

Hi, I've just stumbled upon this forum and I am still confused about how to appeal tickets as I believe my situation is different and I have no relevant grounds

I was at Cambridge leisure and parked my car here (parked here before with no issues without paying). I thought that it was free after a certain time such as 6pm. However as the notice that I have just been served it was not. I understand this was my fault for not double checking. I immediately paid the charge but soon after I came upon this forum. The problem is that notice was the first time I parked there and have since parked without paying about 4 times which will amount to £240 total.

I'd rather not pay this, I understand it was my fault and I will not be parking there again. Do I have enough grounds to appeal or send an email? Will I be able to ignore and not pay the following notices to come? Did my payment of this notice impact my ability to get future notices rescinded? Or will I have to accept defeat and just pay the future notices?

Thank you in advance!

KingLRizzla

This one was due to overstaying my time, however future notices will be due to non payment.

Gr1pr

Ideally you follow plan A, try to get the rest cancelled by the venue, business or landowner 

Otherwise you may be liable for each and every PCN that arrives 

You don't have to pay unless a judge says so in court, so bear this in mind 

KingLRizzla

Gr1pr said:

Ideally you follow plan A, try to get the rest cancelled by the venue, business or landowner 

Otherwise you may be liable for each and every PCN that arrives 

You don't have to pay unless a judge says so in court, so bear this in mind 

How would I go about doing that if it was my fault for not checking the rules?

re The payment - I'd rather pay the £60 now than pay the £100 once the court orders to, or will the judge just require the £60 payment from me

Gr1pr

Complain about the PCNs to the business etc and see what they can do, if you dont ask, you don't get. !

Each PCN is £100 , not £60 , so if you lost in court then each £100 would be due, plus perhaps another £150 in court and legal fees ( expensive lesson, always read and comply with signs. )

Coupon-mad

KingLRizzla said:

How would I go about doing that if it was my fault for not checking the rules?

re The payment - I'd rather pay the £60 now than pay the £100 once the court orders to, or will the judge just require the £60 payment from me

Are you saying the rules changed and you didn't know?  In that case, Carflow were likely in breach of the BPA CoP for not placing conspicuous additional signs to alert drivers to the change.

Not your fault, if so.

Or has it not changed recently, and you just got lucky previously by only staying under 4 hours on earlier visits and in fact never noticed the t&cs?

Carflow are a bit different. They read this forum, we believe.

DO NOT USE THE TEMPLATE APPEAL.

Send them an appeal for all PCNs (wait for them all to arrive and list all of them) and if you feel that there's not much case to be made about a lack of signs to alert you: make an offer.

KingLRizzla

Coupon-mad said:

KingLRizzla said:

How would I go about doing that if it was my fault for not checking the rules?

re The payment - I'd rather pay the £60 now than pay the £100 once the court orders to, or will the judge just require the £60 payment from me

Are you saying the rules changed and you didn't know?  In that case, Carflow were likely in breach of the BPA CoP for not placing conspicuous additional signs to alert drivers to the change.

Not your fault, if so.

Or has it not changed recently, and you just got lucky previously by only staying under 4 hours on earlier visits and in fact never noticed the t&cs?

Carflow are a bit different. They read this forum, we believe.

DO NOT USE THE TEMPLATE APPEAL.

Send them an appeal for all PCNs (wait for them all to arrive and list all of them) and if you feel that there's not much case to be made about a lack of signs to alert you: make an offer.

So my other Two have just come through. The T&C's had not changed and I was unaware of the parking costs because of the little information they provided on site. In fact after I got my first two, I went back to the parking area and they put new signs up to inform customers of new parking conditions in place. See photos. The parking conditions were not this clear before the change.

You mentioned two methods. In light of this information should I appeal directly to carflow or to the BPA?

Thanks in advance!

Coupon-mad

My advice was very clear and hasn't changed.  Obviously you can't appeal to the BPA.