Please if my meter is an RTS meter

Mariadela

Hello, could please anyone tell me if my meter is a RTS meter? I have found on google pictures of  similar meters but there is "radio" written on them and mine only says "multi-rate" meter. Thank you

Do you know when this meter would have to be replaced? is there a place I could look? 

Swipe

Can you post another picture standing back and show the whole cabinet and any other devices that may be in there?

Ildhund

That isn't an RTS meter. However, there could be a separate RTS device connected to it. The pictures @Swipe asked for would help.

The meter is 22 years old, so probably ripe for replacement.

Mariadela

Thank you very much for your replies here is another picture. 

Scot_39

There is a very similar looking Horstman model - which I have seen that is an integrated RTS meter - but at the top left hand side it actually says that it is - in the image I've just seen elsewhere it says RADIO TELEMETER SERIES K.

e.g. partial photo here 

https://community.eonnext.com/threads/5863-Meter-reading

You dont actually always have to have an external box - was a combined meter and switch.  That post says the Hosrtmann supported four rates - SSE / Ovo have one for a couple of their 3 rate specials etc.

But other digital meters used external RTS time switches to select the rates - so their could be a second box.

Pending photos it's not clear

Re the 2002 certification - the list of approved meter series is here -

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/schedule-4-uk-nationally-approved-electricity-meters

The Horstman's still listed there have between 10 and 20 years - if that meter is in fact one of them - it needs replacing regardless under end of life rules - so likelyy smart unless supplier has good reason (basically known no signal spot)

Swipe

Your meter model made the Daily Mail today:

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-13941705/Nearly-1m-homes-Radio-Teleswitch-energy-meters-replaced-nine-months-face-losing-hot-water.html

Gerry1

Swipe said:

Your meter model made the Daily Mail today:

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-13941705/Nearly-1m-homes-Radio-Teleswitch-energy-meters-replaced-nine-months-face-losing-hot-water.html

Another scaremongering article, even some of Ofgem's reported remarks are daft.

"...without a meter upgrade some affected homes, schools and businesses could be left without heating and hot water, or unable to turn off their heating.' 🙄

In the highly unlikely event that lack of an RTS signal caused an E7 circuit to remain live 24/7, obviously there will always be a conventional switch somewhere to turn the heating off.

Either Ofgem have been misquoted (well, it is the Daily Fail !), or Charlotte Friel lacks basic technical knowledge and has been badly briefed, or it's just deliberate scaremongering because the smart meter rollout is so far behind schedule.

Scot_39

Swipe said:

Your meter model made the Daily Mail today:

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-13941705/Nearly-1m-homes-Radio-Teleswitch-energy-meters-replaced-nine-months-face-losing-hot-water.html

That is same variant as the EOn one that specifically says rts.

The OPs meter doesn't  - were they all rts ?

Swipe

Scot_39 said:

Swipe said:

Your meter model made the Daily Mail today:

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-13941705/Nearly-1m-homes-Radio-Teleswitch-energy-meters-replaced-nine-months-face-losing-hot-water.html

That is same variant as the EOn one that specifically says rts.

The OPs meter doesn't  - were they all rts ?

I would imagine the OPs is too if there is no external timer switch.

Swipe

Gerry1 said:

Swipe said:

Your meter model made the Daily Mail today:

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-13941705/Nearly-1m-homes-Radio-Teleswitch-energy-meters-replaced-nine-months-face-losing-hot-water.html

Another scaremongering article, even some of Ofgem's reported remarks are daft.

"...without a meter upgrade some affected homes, schools and businesses could be left without heating and hot water, or unable to turn off their heating.' 🙄

In the highly unlikely event that lack of an RTS signal caused an E7 circuit to remain live 24/7, obviously there will always be a conventional switch somewhere to turn the heating off.

Either Ofgem have been misquoted (well, it is the Daily Fail !), or Charlotte Friel lacks basic technical knowledge and has been badly briefed, or it's just deliberate scaremongering because the smart meter rollout is so far behind schedule.

I didn't even read it Gerry. Was just posted for reference for the photo in the article.

Scot_39

Swipe said:

Scot_39 said:

Swipe said:

Your meter model made the Daily Mail today:

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-13941705/Nearly-1m-homes-Radio-Teleswitch-energy-meters-replaced-nine-months-face-losing-hot-water.html

That is same variant as the EOn one that specifically says rts.

The OPs meter doesn't  - were they all rts ?

I would imagine the OPs is too if there is no external timer switch.

Some digital meters don't need external timers.

My initial dual set-up - analogue for 24/7 normal only and RTS timeswitch / meter combined for separate HW and NSH restricted feeds - replaced by one single 5 port digital meter - losing seperation of HW and NSH circuits.

But a perfectly functioning multirate meter with ALCS.

Operating just as an E7 smart meter still would - in a no signal area.