MSE Guide: Managed Migration

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HillStreetBlues

If you're on certain low-income benefits, you'll soon be moved onto Universal Credit. The move isn’t automatic – once you get a letter, you'll have to take action within the time set out otherwise you could lose all your benefits. This guide covers how it all works and how to prepare.

I think it needs to be clear that it's only income related benefits. You can't lose non-income related ones like PIP.

Alice_Holt

HillStreetBlues said:

If you're on certain low-income benefits, you'll soon be moved onto Universal Credit. The move isn’t automatic – once you get a letter, you'll have to take action within the time set out otherwise you could lose all your benefits. This guide covers how it all works and how to prepare.

I think it needs to be clear that it's only income related benefits. You can't lose non-income related ones like PIP.

  Good point.
  And also contribution-based / newstyle ESA can continue.

Dorksy68

Do you need to let uc know at the end if your ap how much money you have each month..????

Pointless_walks88

Hi. I've been on income-related ESA for some years now - having had Work Capability Assessments etc. I recently received the UC migration latter. The DWP website tells me you won't have to produce a new 'sicknote' or have another WCA in order to migrate as long as:

• you move from ESA to Universal Credit without a break

• you’ve already completed a WCA

• you were in the ‘support group’ or ‘work-related activity’ group in ESA when you made your claim to Universal Credit 

So the only thing potentially different to the above for me is that I am not in the 'work-related activity' group, rather I'm in the other group, non-work related (without going into detail, I'm currently in treatment which has been ongoing)..
So my question is:
Will I still qualify to migrate successfully - and receive transitional protection - before I have to potentially renew/review my claim further down the line? Surely even if I do have to take a WCA again (eg later in the year or beyond) I can't imagine they are allowed to cut my allowance in lieu of potentially failing that assessment in other words? I'm hoping I will avoid it altogether for a period in order to at least get used to UC and likely there will be a considerable backlog. Any help welcome, thanks in advance 😊

Spoonie_Turtle

Pointless_walks88 said:

Hi. I've been on income-related ESA for some years now - having had Work Capability Assessments etc. I recently received the UC migration latter. The DWP website tells me you won't have to produce a new 'sicknote' or have another WCA in order to migrate as long as:

• you move from ESA to Universal Credit without a break

• you’ve already completed a WCA

• you were in the ‘support group’ or ‘work-related activity’ group in ESA when you made your claim to Universal Credit 

So the only thing potentially different to the above for me is that I am not in the 'work-related activity' group, rather I'm in the other group, non-work related (without going into detail, I'm currently in treatment which has been ongoing)..
So my question is:

Unless you've been found fit for work, you are in one of those two groups mentioned, either the Work-Related Activity Group (not looking for work, but sometimes have to do things like attend appointments, update CV, go on a course, etc.) or the Support Group (left alone with no requirements).

If you can tell us how much ESA you get someone will probably be able to work out which of the two it is, just to reassure you.  But the fact you're still claiming after an assessment outcome indicates you weren't found Fit for Work and are in one of the two groups.

Pointless_walks88

Ah, thanks so much! I've realised that I mis-read the DWP advice grammatically, assuming it said that the work-related group IS the support group, whereas of course they are two separate groups under the ESA banner. Apologies for potentially wasting anyone's time on this, but at least from my point of view I'm very happy to be a member of the group for any future queries (including those I can potentially help others with of course). Reading through these threads it's clear that there are some very knowledgeable folks here, fostering a supportive atmosphere, which will certainly be required for the forseeable future under the government's new plans...all rather in flux atm but one must be prepared for any changes that do happen. Thanks again @Spoonie_Turtle, have a good day