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  • Agusya
    Agusya Posts: 192 Forumite
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    sheramber said:
    Agusya said:
    You pay the bill then you fill out a NHS form to claim a refund.
    They give you receipts and information on what was done.

    Then you fill in the claim form, using the receipts and then the NHS can see your UK medical record to see if there are any reasons you aren't covered. Then they refund you.

    More info here:
    https://www.nhsbsa.nhs.uk/claim-refund-treatment-costs
    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/uk-reciprocal-healthcare-agreements-with-non-eu-countries
    Hi! fair enough but I havent been given any bills to pay. Thats why I would like to know how this all works, Im assuming health care department abroad where I was treated will send something to NHS. Is that not correct? If I havent been given a bill whos going to pay it?  
    How long ago did you have your treatment?


    Recently . Does this matter? 
  • sheramber
    sheramber Posts: 22,920 Forumite
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    Agusya said:
    sheramber said:
    Agusya said:
    You pay the bill then you fill out a NHS form to claim a refund.
    They give you receipts and information on what was done.

    Then you fill in the claim form, using the receipts and then the NHS can see your UK medical record to see if there are any reasons you aren't covered. Then they refund you.

    More info here:
    https://www.nhsbsa.nhs.uk/claim-refund-treatment-costs
    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/uk-reciprocal-healthcare-agreements-with-non-eu-countries
    Hi! fair enough but I havent been given any bills to pay. Thats why I would like to know how this all works, Im assuming health care department abroad where I was treated will send something to NHS. Is that not correct? If I havent been given a bill whos going to pay it?  
    How long ago did you have your treatment?


    Recently . Does this matter? 
    You may still receive a bill for the treatment,
  • Agusya
    Agusya Posts: 192 Forumite
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    sheramber said:
    Agusya said:
    sheramber said:
    Agusya said:
    You pay the bill then you fill out a NHS form to claim a refund.
    They give you receipts and information on what was done.

    Then you fill in the claim form, using the receipts and then the NHS can see your UK medical record to see if there are any reasons you aren't covered. Then they refund you.

    More info here:
    https://www.nhsbsa.nhs.uk/claim-refund-treatment-costs
    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/uk-reciprocal-healthcare-agreements-with-non-eu-countries
    Hi! fair enough but I havent been given any bills to pay. Thats why I would like to know how this all works, Im assuming health care department abroad where I was treated will send something to NHS. Is that not correct? If I havent been given a bill whos going to pay it?  
    How long ago did you have your treatment?


    Recently . Does this matter? 
    You may still receive a bill for the treatment,
    But Ive been told I wont get a bill if I supply EHIC card etc, which I did. How long does it take to get a bill? What if you get treatment and go back home ,where do they send this bill to? Do you work for the department or you guessing? I really would like to know how this all works but its not possible to find out. I would ask the department but I have no idea what department deals with this 
  • Agusya
    Agusya Posts: 192 Forumite
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    sheramber said:
    Agusya said:
    sheramber said:
    Agusya said:
    You pay the bill then you fill out a NHS form to claim a refund.
    They give you receipts and information on what was done.

    Then you fill in the claim form, using the receipts and then the NHS can see your UK medical record to see if there are any reasons you aren't covered. Then they refund you.

    More info here:
    https://www.nhsbsa.nhs.uk/claim-refund-treatment-costs
    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/uk-reciprocal-healthcare-agreements-with-non-eu-countries
    Hi! fair enough but I havent been given any bills to pay. Thats why I would like to know how this all works, Im assuming health care department abroad where I was treated will send something to NHS. Is that not correct? If I havent been given a bill whos going to pay it?  
    How long ago did you have your treatment?


    Recently . Does this matter? 
    You may still receive a bill for the treatment,
    Im gonna contact NHS Overseas Healthcare Services. maybe they will reply
  • zagfles
    zagfles Posts: 21,543 Forumite
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    Agusya said:
    sheramber said:
    Agusya said:
    sheramber said:
    Agusya said:
    You pay the bill then you fill out a NHS form to claim a refund.
    They give you receipts and information on what was done.

    Then you fill in the claim form, using the receipts and then the NHS can see your UK medical record to see if there are any reasons you aren't covered. Then they refund you.

    More info here:
    https://www.nhsbsa.nhs.uk/claim-refund-treatment-costs
    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/uk-reciprocal-healthcare-agreements-with-non-eu-countries
    Hi! fair enough but I havent been given any bills to pay. Thats why I would like to know how this all works, Im assuming health care department abroad where I was treated will send something to NHS. Is that not correct? If I havent been given a bill whos going to pay it?  
    How long ago did you have your treatment?


    Recently . Does this matter? 
    You may still receive a bill for the treatment,
    But Ive been told I wont get a bill if I supply EHIC card etc, which I did. How long does it take to get a bill? What if you get treatment and go back home ,where do they send this bill to? Do you work for the department or you guessing? I really would like to know how this all works but its not possible to find out. I would ask the department but I have no idea what department deals with this 
    You shouldn't usually get a bill if you use the EHIC, they bill the NHS direct. I did once but it was a mistake, I replied saying I showed my EHIC and they shouldn't be billing me, never heard back from them, so they just hadn't followed the proper process. 

    The same process apparently occurs in the UK, if you live in Manchester and have an accident in London, the London NHS will bill the Manchester NHS for your treatment! (or whatever the local trusts are). 
  • Agusya
    Agusya Posts: 192 Forumite
    Fifth Anniversary 100 Posts Name Dropper
    You pay the bill then you fill out a NHS form to claim a refund.
    They give you receipts and information on what was done.

    Then you fill in the claim form, using the receipts and then the NHS can see your UK medical record to see if there are any reasons you aren't covered. Then they refund you.

    More info here:
    https://www.nhsbsa.nhs.uk/claim-refund-treatment-costs
    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/uk-reciprocal-healthcare-agreements-with-non-eu-countries
    Hi, They (countries) dont do this between each other? 
  • Agusya
    Agusya Posts: 192 Forumite
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    Agusya said:
    When you get treated abroad using the card who in uk gets notified of it? Nhs? Your gp? Thanks
    I know a bit about this from my bit of the NHS - but the NHS is a big place.

    GHIC entitles you to the same level of treatment as a citizen of a participating country, and you would pay any charges the locals would pay. It’s why you also need travel insurance. The NHS doesn’t need to know you paid for a prescribed medicine or treatment abroad.

    There’s no automatic link between patient records across borders, but usually patients are given information to take to their GP, and that may get uploaded to their notes. An example is during the pandemic, patients overseas were given vaccines that were approved in that country to allow them to travel. They got a card or letter to confirm, and once they were home the NHS could create a record of that vaccination. The GP might recommend a further vaccination with a UK MHRA approved vaccine. 



    if you receive treatment as a citizen of this country and you pay same as locals (which is zero) what exactly isnt covered and why would one need travel insurance? I got a message from the other country that I will need to pay for something (dont know yet what for) as only emergency treatment is covered and treatment thats a result of this emergency. I have no idea now what are they talking about. medication?this emergency situation can be arguable. They also mentioned they only cover temporary treatment like holiday but temporary is also arguable as doesnt refer to specific time frame.  Do I need to pay and get refund from NHS or NHS exchanges this billing with the other country? thanks
  • katejo
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    Agusya said:
    Agusya said:
    When you get treated abroad using the card who in uk gets notified of it? Nhs? Your gp? Thanks
    I know a bit about this from my bit of the NHS - but the NHS is a big place.

    GHIC entitles you to the same level of treatment as a citizen of a participating country, and you would pay any charges the locals would pay. It’s why you also need travel insurance. The NHS doesn’t need to know you paid for a prescribed medicine or treatment abroad.

    There’s no automatic link between patient records across borders, but usually patients are given information to take to their GP, and that may get uploaded to their notes. An example is during the pandemic, patients overseas were given vaccines that were approved in that country to allow them to travel. They got a card or letter to confirm, and once they were home the NHS could create a record of that vaccination. The GP might recommend a further vaccination with a UK MHRA approved vaccine. 



    if you receive treatment as a citizen of this country and you pay same as locals (which is zero) what exactly isnt covered and why would one need travel insurance? I got a message from the other country that I will need to pay for something (dont know yet what for) as only emergency treatment is covered and treatment thats a result of this emergency. I have no idea now what are they talking about. medication?this emergency situation can be arguable. They also mentioned they only cover temporary treatment like holiday but temporary is also arguable as doesnt refer to specific time frame.  Do I need to pay and get refund from NHS or NHS exchanges this billing with the other country? thanks
    You need insurance because GHIC will not cover you if you are critically ill and need transportation back home accompanied by medical staff. It also won't cover if you are sent to a private hospital.
  • sheramber
    sheramber Posts: 22,920 Forumite
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    Agusya said:
    Agusya said:
    When you get treated abroad using the card who in uk gets notified of it? Nhs? Your gp? Thanks
    I know a bit about this from my bit of the NHS - but the NHS is a big place.

    GHIC entitles you to the same level of treatment as a citizen of a participating country, and you would pay any charges the locals would pay. It’s why you also need travel insurance. The NHS doesn’t need to know you paid for a prescribed medicine or treatment abroad.

    There’s no automatic link between patient records across borders, but usually patients are given information to take to their GP, and that may get uploaded to their notes. An example is during the pandemic, patients overseas were given vaccines that were approved in that country to allow them to travel. They got a card or letter to confirm, and once they were home the NHS could create a record of that vaccination. The GP might recommend a further vaccination with a UK MHRA approved vaccine. 



    if you receive treatment as a citizen of this country and you pay same as locals (which is zero) what exactly isnt covered and why would one need travel insurance? I got a message from the other country that I will need to pay for something (dont know yet what for) as only emergency treatment is covered and treatment thats a result of this emergency. I have no idea now what are they talking about. medication?this emergency situation can be arguable. They also mentioned they only cover temporary treatment like holiday but temporary is also arguable as doesnt refer to specific time frame.  Do I need to pay and get refund from NHS or NHS exchanges this billing with the other country? thanks
    Are you sure the locals do not pay for any treatment? 

    Some  countries require people to  pay into an insurance which then covers medical treatment. 

    Although they do not get billed for treatment it is paid for through the insurance. 
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