No contract & pay issues

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FlorayG said:

[Deleted User] said:

FlorayG said:

LightFlare said:

I’m wondering if the OP is being considered as Self Employed

That needs to be established 

That's going to be a bit difficult if the employer isn't co-operative and won't give any sort of payslip or invoice

No i am employed full time , with a start and finish time with a set hourly rate .

Then your employer is breaking the law. You are entitled by law to a payslip that shows all payments and deductions
What is your hourly rate?

Hourly rate is irrelevant 

FlorayG

[Deleted User] said:

FlorayG said:

[Deleted User] said:

FlorayG said:

LightFlare said:

I’m wondering if the OP is being considered as Self Employed

That needs to be established 

That's going to be a bit difficult if the employer isn't co-operative and won't give any sort of payslip or invoice

No i am employed full time , with a start and finish time with a set hourly rate .

Then your employer is breaking the law. You are entitled by law to a payslip that shows all payments and deductions
What is your hourly rate?

Hourly rate is irrelevant 

Not if it's minimum wage and the employer is saying it includes holiday pay, because that won't

[Deleted User]

FlorayG said:

[Deleted User] said:

FlorayG said:

[Deleted User] said:

FlorayG said:

LightFlare said:

I’m wondering if the OP is being considered as Self Employed

That needs to be established 

That's going to be a bit difficult if the employer isn't co-operative and won't give any sort of payslip or invoice

No i am employed full time , with a start and finish time with a set hourly rate .

Then your employer is breaking the law. You are entitled by law to a payslip that shows all payments and deductions
What is your hourly rate?

Hourly rate is irrelevant 

Not if it's minimum wage and the employer is saying it includes holiday pay, because that won't

Hourly rate was agreed on first day, no one said it included holiday pay, I've only found this out when I was on holiday as I didn't get paid ,  wages works out same as what goes in the bank .

Think I might have to rock the boat when I return.
 And I've just found out the owners are closing the  business for 2 weeks to go on holiday,  so that will be another 2 weeks without pay .

FlorayG

[Deleted User] said:

FlorayG said:

[Deleted User] said:

FlorayG said:

[Deleted User] said:

FlorayG said:

LightFlare said:

I’m wondering if the OP is being considered as Self Employed

That needs to be established 

That's going to be a bit difficult if the employer isn't co-operative and won't give any sort of payslip or invoice

No i am employed full time , with a start and finish time with a set hourly rate .

Then your employer is breaking the law. You are entitled by law to a payslip that shows all payments and deductions
What is your hourly rate?

Hourly rate is irrelevant 

Not if it's minimum wage and the employer is saying it includes holiday pay, because that won't

Hourly rate was agreed on first day, no one said it included holiday pay, I've only found this out when I was on holiday as I didn't get paid ,  wages works out same as what goes in the bank .

Think I might have to rock the boat when I return.
 And I've just found out the owners are closing the  business for 2 weeks to go on holiday,  so that will be another 2 weeks without pay .

You mean you don't pay any tax on it? 

[Deleted User]

FlorayG said:

[Deleted User] said:

FlorayG said:

[Deleted User] said:

FlorayG said:

[Deleted User] said:

FlorayG said:

LightFlare said:

I’m wondering if the OP is being considered as Self Employed

That needs to be established 

That's going to be a bit difficult if the employer isn't co-operative and won't give any sort of payslip or invoice

No i am employed full time , with a start and finish time with a set hourly rate .

Then your employer is breaking the law. You are entitled by law to a payslip that shows all payments and deductions
What is your hourly rate?

Hourly rate is irrelevant 

Not if it's minimum wage and the employer is saying it includes holiday pay, because that won't

Hourly rate was agreed on first day, no one said it included holiday pay, I've only found this out when I was on holiday as I didn't get paid ,  wages works out same as what goes in the bank .

Think I might have to rock the boat when I return.
 And I've just found out the owners are closing the  business for 2 weeks to go on holiday,  so that will be another 2 weeks without pay .

You mean you don't pay any tax on it? 

I do obviously , but working it out roughly without any payslips , who knows.

KittenChops

[Deleted User] said:

FlorayG said:

[Deleted User] said:

FlorayG said:

[Deleted User] said:

FlorayG said:

LightFlare said:

I’m wondering if the OP is being considered as Self Employed

That needs to be established 

That's going to be a bit difficult if the employer isn't co-operative and won't give any sort of payslip or invoice

No i am employed full time , with a start and finish time with a set hourly rate .

Then your employer is breaking the law. You are entitled by law to a payslip that shows all payments and deductions
What is your hourly rate?

Hourly rate is irrelevant 

Not if it's minimum wage and the employer is saying it includes holiday pay, because that won't

Hourly rate was agreed on first day, no one said it included holiday pay, I've only found this out when I was on holiday as I didn't get paid ,  wages works out same as what goes in the bank .

Think I might have to rock the boat when I return.
 And I've just found out the owners are closing the  business for 2 weeks to go on holiday,  so that will be another 2 weeks without pay .

re the bit I've bolded above - I think they have to give you twice the amount of notice if they are dictating when you take your annual leave - so for two weeks, they need to give you four weeks notice

[Deleted User]

Right , thought I'd give it a few weeks,  see if I can sort this mess out but no.

I had 2 weeks holidays ,I've received no holiday pay.

I don't get any payslips , only the info I know is off the hmrc app, shows wages tax and Ni.

When questioning my employer, they said holiday pay is included on top of my wages , which I simply can't work out .

Again the business has closed for 2 weeks break, I will not receive a penny , 

4 weeks and no holiday pay.

FlorayG

You need to go to ACAS next
Employer is breaking the law not giving you itemised payslips

Undervalued

[Deleted User] said:

Right , thought I'd give it a few weeks,  see if I can sort this mess out but no.

I had 2 weeks holidays ,I've received no holiday pay.

I don't get any payslips , only the info I know is off the hmrc app, shows wages tax and Ni.

When questioning my employer, they said holiday pay is included on top of my wages , which I simply can't work out .

Again the business has closed for 2 weeks break, I will not receive a penny , 

4 weeks and no holiday pay.

The statutory minimum holiday equates to 12.07% of wages.

So if your holiday is "rolled up" your gross pay should be 12.07% more than it would be if you receive the normal 5.6 weeks (28 days) paid holiday. 

If that is the case you are not losing out financially. Even then, whether you should be getting your holiday pay by the "rolled up" method is debatable but it is something of a moot point if you are not actually out of pocket overall.

If, and I repeat if, your pay is 12.07 percent higher that it would otherwise be then you have in a round about way been paid for the "two week break" and indeed up to 18 other days per year when the business is closed and you don't work and "will not receive a penny".

In the real world it would be best to work that out first before deciding how much to rock the boat.

SiliconChip

Did you receive a P60 by the end of May 2024? If not that's another breach of the law. I'd be actively looking for another job.