parking in a residential Private rd turning circle

Sledger

Along our private rd, most owners do not park on their  verge and have installed rocks etc to stop others parking but there is the odd exception who don't honour the  no parking on their house verge

I am on one side at the end of the Rd on a turning circle where the very end has a gate to my neighbours. The side opposite to me on the circle was a vacant empty plot of trees with a historic mostly crumbled stone wall down to its foundation and a weed infested overgrown verge which I occasionally cut away.

My Neighbours at the end of the circle mainly parked in their property which had vast space for Parking with the exception of one son.  He was either to lazy whatever but always parked  his car in one of the 3 places opposite me in the circle where the end by his gate obstructed me from reversing into my drive. I had to ask him endless times to move his car from the end as it was blocking me and the problem got solved when he moved to another location but has now recently returned with a new partner so we know have 2 cars parked on the circle and again have to remind him to move his car from the end of the circle blocking me in.

They recently acquired this vacant land opposite the circle and have installed a wooden fence that has not followed the stone wall foundation and now protrudes about 0.5m into the circle where I now need to do a 4 point turn into my drive.  They have multiple food/ Amazon deliveries etc  who struggle turning around. The son and his partner parked in a large space they cleared in this vacant lot but have again started to park now in the middle of the circle some distance from the fence making it almost impossible for drivers  to do a U turn. I had enough when they parked at the end opposite to my drive and drove my car out to my side circle restricting entry to their property, ignored the sons rant and he moved his car inside their property and thought problem solved  but he is doing it again.
 
I have spoken to our owners association who state they have no enforcement powers can anyone here advise.

I will ask if double red lines on that side of the circle that can be enforced as the their  windscreen polite No parking notice is ignored. The rest of his family cannot be blind to this as for security it would be sensible to park inside their gated property and they dont tell their endless  visitors not to park obstructing my drive

swingaloo

Im very confused about 2 things. 
The first is why you cant get in and out of your drive with the car parked opposite against the fence. Amazon etc are not your problem.

The second, is why your photo is captioned 'ross urinating'.

Brie

a satellite view might be more helpful.  And I agree this has nothing to do with what Ross may or may not be up to.

Sledger

I can drive out but if the car is still  there when I return I cant reverse back in and have to drive in which is hard reversing back out to do a U turn  especially if there is a car in the middle as well. The fact remains its a turning circle which should not be obstructed and they have more than adequate space inside their property so there is no need to park there. The deliveries are my concern as one has already hit my car in the process of doing a U turn. also its lack of consideration to other drivers. Are you implying if I saw one of those delivery drivers or who ever being hit whilst parked elsewhere its not my problem and walk away.  Many other drivers get lost navigating and end up having to do a u Turn 
 
Oops did a screen shot of the CCTV and never realised that file title would be displayed and that occurred later in the CCTV and have deleted it

swingaloo

Sledger said:

I can drive out but if the car is still  there when I return I cant reverse back in and have to drive in which is hard reversing back out to do a U turn  especially if there is a car in the middle as well. The fact remains its a turning circle which should not be obstructed and they have more than adequate space inside their property so there is no need to park there. The deliveries are my concern as one has already hit my car in the process of doing a U turn. also its lack of consideration to other drivers. Are you implying if I saw one of those delivery drivers or who ever being hit whilst parked elsewhere its not my problem and walk away.  Many other drivers get lost navigating and end up having to do a u Turn 
 
Oops did a screen shot of the CCTV and never realised that file title would be displayed and that occurred later in the CCTV and have deleted it

Of course Im not implying that. What I meant was that if they are having multiple deliveries and the drivers are struggling to turn then those drivers should be complaining to them, it shouldnt be your worry. Although I am slightly confused as to how one of the delivery drivers can hit your car if your car is parked in your drive and not in the turning circle.

Sledger

swingaloo said:

Of course Im not implying that. What I meant was that if they are having multiple deliveries and the drivers are struggling to turn then those drivers should be complaining to them, it shouldnt be your worry. Although I am slightly confused as to how one of the delivery drivers can hit your car if your car is parked in your drive and not in the turning circle.

Before the fence adequate space to do a U Turn



His normally now parks in the  middle some distance from the fence to let his passenger out.  The van turned left at the end then reversed back and forth several times to get at right angle to the fence then reversed back to my drive and hit my bumper 
His dad on another occasion reversed his car  out of their  property and parked it in front of his sons opposite my driveway for over 6 hours then drove it back in for reasons unclear where several of their delivery vans had to back out  

swingaloo

Not trying to be disrespectful here but is this an ongoing feud with your neighbours during which you have both dug your heels in? I ask because on each photo you post your car is protruding from your drive both before and after the fence was erected  and unless it is a coincidence and the photos were taken on the same day of the week your bins are very prominent which is going to hamper any vehicle wanting to turn.
Is there a bit of tit for tat going on here?

Sledger

swingaloo said:

Not trying to be disrespectful here but is this an ongoing feud with your neighbours during which you have both dug your heels in? I ask because on each photo you post your car is protruding from your drive both before and after the fence was erected  and unless it is a coincidence and the photos were taken on the same day of the week your bins are very prominent which is going to hamper any vehicle wanting to turn.
Is there a bit of tit for tat going on here?

1). This has nothing to do with a or without any feud between the son blocking the circle from all other road users which  is totally disrespectful and lack of consideration especially  as he has  far more than adequate space in their massive grounds.
2). Why park there in the first place other than laziness and leaves his car unlocked instead of being secured.
3). Other than keep reminding him in the past not to park in front of my drive  it came to a head after the fence was built in August restricting the space further and parking far from the fence and not explaining why his partner drove the car from the middle  spot and reversed it at 8pm in front of my drive and left it there until late morning the next day.
4). The middle of the circle is the ideal spot to do a U turn which he now blocks far from the fence  rather than one car back where he used to park. 
5).  My bins  do not protrude past the curb of my property. They have been  been there for years and have been hit several times in the past.
6). My nose just protruded into the circle prior to the fence to deter deliveries doing a U turn at the end rather than the middle as in day time when he was at work  the circle clear of cars. 
7). There is no Tit for Tat as my only PERSONAL objection is to keep the space clear so I can back in. There is nothing I can do other than park on my side of the circle blocking their other cars entering or leaving. I have only done this once to get the verbal messages over not to park there but that failed maybe memory loss .  I am resisting repeating this as consider that lowering myself to his level but if  my NO PARKING sign does not allow common sense to prevail  every time he parks from then on forcing him to move his car is  the only way forward.  Similar to this scenario on here where there is no enforcement and only this alternative.    AdrianC said:

If the land in question is not a public highway, then there really are only two measures available...
1. Employ private parking enforcement, with all appropriate signage, and issue "penalty charge" invoices.
2. Physically restrict access.
That's it. Clamping and towing are illegal.

Well, not quite all. Two neighbours could park either end of her car the next time it happens, stopping egress.

swingaloo

Sledger said:

swingaloo said:

Not trying to be disrespectful here but is this an ongoing feud with your neighbours during which you have both dug your heels in? I ask because on each photo you post your car is protruding from your drive both before and after the fence was erected  and unless it is a coincidence and the photos were taken on the same day of the week your bins are very prominent which is going to hamper any vehicle wanting to turn.
Is there a bit of tit for tat going on here?

1). This has nothing to do with a or without any feud between the son blocking the circle from all other road users which  is totally disrespectful and lack of consideration especially  as he has  far more than adequate space in their massive grounds.
2). Why park there in the first place other than laziness and leaves his car unlocked instead of being secured.
3). Other than keep reminding him in the past not to park in front of my drive  it came to a head after the fence was built in August restricting the space further and parking far from the fence and not explaining why his partner drove the car from the middle  spot and reversed it at 8pm in front of my drive and left it there until late morning the next day.
4). The middle of the circle is the ideal spot to do a U turn which he now blocks far from the fence  rather than one car back where he used to park. 
5).  My bins  do not protrude past the curb of my property. They have been  been there for years and have been hit several times in the past.
6). My nose just protruded into the circle prior to the fence to deter deliveries doing a U turn at the end rather than the middle as in day time when he was at work  the circle clear of cars. 
7). There is no Tit for Tat as my only PERSONAL objection is to keep the space clear so I can back in. There is nothing I can do other than park on my side of the circle blocking their other cars entering or leaving. I have only done this once to get the verbal messages over not to park there but that failed maybe memory loss .  I am resisting repeating this as consider that lowering myself to his level but if  my NO PARKING sign does not allow common sense to prevail  every time he parks from then on forcing him to move his car is  the only way forward.  Similar to this scenario on here where there is no enforcement and only this alternative.    AdrianC said:

If the land in question is not a public highway, then there really are only two measures available...
1. Employ private parking enforcement, with all appropriate signage, and issue "penalty charge" invoices.
2. Physically restrict access.
That's it. Clamping and towing are illegal.

Well, not quite all. Two neighbours could park either end of her car the next time it happens, stopping egress.

It still reads to me as a bit 2 sided. From your photo it looks perfectly possible to reverse into your drive with his car where it is? Perhaps moving your bins would help.