LCWRA and quoted £850 for a crown.

Badboi

If it’s free and a molar, then get the silver, no one will notice it..different if it’s a front tooth though… 

having had 2 rear molars removed, I have the option for a denture or implant, though they would cost £300 or £2k 🙈

peteuk

Kris35 said:

ST, thanks. So I get more than that every month but it includes my monthly rent, too. Would you know if the £935 figure includes my rent money? 

And
poppy12345 said:

The figures are earnings and not your actual UC payments. 

And

Kris35 said:

Ok thanks, let me go and work this out. 

@Kris35 - whilst you work out your income - which i suspect is zero as you state you can not work and are claiming LCWRA, how do you find the dentist? Im not 100% sure but for NHS costs, you may need to be registered with an NHS dentist (Which technically no one is, but thats a different conversation) 

Spoonie_Turtle

peteuk said:

Kris35 said:

ST, thanks. So I get more than that every month but it includes my monthly rent, too. Would you know if the £935 figure includes my rent money? 

And
poppy12345 said:

The figures are earnings and not your actual UC payments. 

And

Kris35 said:

Ok thanks, let me go and work this out. 

@Kris35 - whilst you work out your income - which i suspect is zero as you state you can not work and are claiming LCWRA, how do you find the dentist? Im not 100% sure but for NHS costs, you may need to be registered with an NHS dentist (Which technically no one is, but thats a different conversation) 

From the members on the health and beauty board who are dentists, I've not heard of that being a requirement - they regularly remind people that there is no such thing as being registered with them, only informally if a practice chooses to keep your details on their system as a patient.

When one goes for an appointment, one fills in an NHS form which includes a section to declare being exempt from charges.  I don't know if everyone fills in the form even if they pay, but I would have thought so to give the NHS details of patients and treatments.

OP, the only reason your dentist could truthfully and confidently say you're not exempt from charges, is if they're giving private treatment at NHS rates (something that is a known practice according to members on the other board, and as a private business they are of course entitled to set their rates which can include aligning with the NHS).  But if that is the case they should have made that clear to you.

peteuk

Spoonie_Turtle said:

From the members on the health and beauty board who are dentists, I've not heard of that being a requirement - they regularly remind people that there is no such thing as being registered with them, only informally if a practice chooses to keep your details on their system as a patient.

When one goes for an appointment, one fills in an NHS form which includes a section to declare being exempt from charges.  I don't know if everyone fills in the form even if they pay, but I would have thought so to give the NHS details of patients and treatments.

OP, the only reason your dentist could truthfully and confidently say you're not exempt from charges, is if they're giving private treatment at NHS rates (something that is a known practice according to members on the other board, and as a private business they are of course entitled to set their rates which can include aligning with the NHS).  But if that is the case they should have made that clear to you.

I wasn’t going to open the registered with a dentist argument, but you are correct you are only registered with an NHS dentist for the period of your treatment, if they should choose to retain your details then this is their choice.  Equally at present there is not many taking on new NHS patients, so if the OP has found a dentist that would take them on as an NHS patient or as you suggest charge NHS fees then the OP would be wise to jump at the opportunity. 

It is this lack of registration, that means you can retain a place at a previous dental surgery as there is no catchment areas as there is with GP surgeries. 

KxMx

Spoonie_Turtle said:

peteuk said:

Kris35 said:

ST, thanks. So I get more than that every month but it includes my monthly rent, too. Would you know if the £935 figure includes my rent money? 

And
poppy12345 said:

The figures are earnings and not your actual UC payments. 

And

Kris35 said:

Ok thanks, let me go and work this out. 

@Kris35 - whilst you work out your income - which i suspect is zero as you state you can not work and are claiming LCWRA, how do you find the dentist? Im not 100% sure but for NHS costs, you may need to be registered with an NHS dentist (Which technically no one is, but thats a different conversation) 

From the members on the health and beauty board who are dentists, I've not heard of that being a requirement - they regularly remind people that there is no such thing as being registered with them, only informally if a practice chooses to keep your details on their system as a patient.

When one goes for an appointment, one fills in an NHS form which includes a section to declare being exempt from charges.  I don't know if everyone fills in the form even if they pay, but I would have thought so to give the NHS details of patients and treatments.

OP, the only reason your dentist could truthfully and confidently say you're not exempt from charges, is if they're giving private treatment at NHS rates (something that is a known practice according to members on the other board, and as a private business they are of course entitled to set their rates which can include aligning with the NHS).  But if that is the case they should have made that clear to you.

At an NHS dental appointment last year, I had to pay the dentist the NHS fee, get a receipt then claim it back via HCA5 form.

Some dentists do it that way, others the method you describe. 

Rubyroobs

If you don't work and so have no earnings you will qualify for free dental treatment. However as pp says it will be the cheapest option. 

peteuk

Rubyroobs said:

If you don't work and so have no earnings you will qualify for free dental treatment. However as pp says it will be the cheapest option. 

There was a thread recently where the dentist had told the poster that their treatment was on the NHS but in fact it wasn’t (I cant remember which benefit they were claiming) and so I would suggest double checking entitlment. 

Newcad

Kris35 said:

. I asked whether he could take the tooth out and he said he wouldn't advise that because the teeth around it will start collapsing in or whatever.

Just to go back to that point:

I may be being cynical here but:

Translation- "If I take the tooth out then I won't be able to charge you again next time the crown needs replacing".
In the end it would be your choice, the dentist has 'advised' not said that he wouldn't pull it if that is what you want.

He could then charge you for a denture, or a bridge, to fill the gap to keep the others in place.
(I used to have a single tooth denture myself, until I lost it somewhere and never bothered getting another).