Council PCN

gul_84

Hi all
 I am unsure what category i should put this into.

Received a PCN today while sat in car, i cant focus on different things due to being dyslexic so was on phone and eating food in back seat. Unsusal situation as I was sat in car and he must have seen me as my back windows are tinted at the back but front and windscreen is not tinted obviously, so seems it was deliberate, or maybe im just too upset.
when I heard something taht washim placing it on the screen, that is when i saw him and then got out he conviniently said he didnt see me?. I said ive paid for ticket also i was over by time like 10ish mins i beleive while he busy slapping the pcn. Ticket finsihed at 3.52 passed and he put ticket on  4.03 while observing didnt see me in back seat?
Is it even worth appeal as i know councils infamous record or rejections but him knowing and till giving it has baffled me.

Grizebeck

Just pay it and move it's only £25

fisherjim

Tend to agree with Grizebeck, annoying as it is you can't really blame anyone else but yourself, whether he saw you or not is immaterial IMHO, he could say if you had seen him he might have let you off who knows.

CliveOfIndia

I'd agree with the above.  Since this is a "genuine" council fine, the usual advice regarding private parking charges is not applicable.

Yes, of course you always have the option to challenge a ticket, but in this case I don't see that you have a valid excuse.  I believe the guidance (maybe even law, I'm not sure?) is that they should give you a 10 minute grace period, unfortunately you were outside of this period - admittedly only by a couple of minutes, which does seem harsh.

And whether the warden saw you or not, since you were in the back seat the obvious inference would be that you were a passenger waiting for the driver to return - so the follow-on assumption would be that the car would stay there for quite a bit longer than the 10-minute grace period.

But going by the facts alone, without bringing into the equation any emotion or "sense of right and wrong", I think trying to appeal it would simply cause a whole heap of more hassle for you.  For the sake of £25 I'd agree, just pay up and have done with it.

la531983

You being in the car doesn't mean they can't issue a ticket, if that was your planned defence. 

vacheron

la531983 said:

You being in the car doesn't mean they can't issue a ticket, if that was your planned defence. 

Have to agree. The ticket charge is for "parked after ticket expiry". The car was parked (you were in the back seat) and the ticket had expired.

I'd pay the £25 and next time set a timer on my phone to ring 5 minutes before your ticket expires.

gul_84

Hello

Thanks for all the useful/positive advice, really appreciate it. For the first reply there was no need for that tone, ild pay without the specific input aswell. 

 Setting alarm something i ll remmeber in future @vacheron thanks for that tip and also sit in front passenger seat if i dare ever to eat in car lol, there was no planned defence I messaged here explaining the complete situation and ask for advice if it was even worth appealing as council never considers according to their reputation.