Rose ('Harnova') (F) Help please

Gers

I have this lovely rose bush which has given me so much pleasure for about seven or eight years outside my front door.  It has been neglected by me but continues to flourish, and now it's flourished too much.

I know it needs heaving pruning, some new soil and feeding. I'd love to give it some long needed care and attention. The variety is no longer available.

How much do I prune this back? All of it? Right back?

Brie

Don't know but it's lovely!!

FlorayG

It's group 16. Very tough. Details here https://www.rhs.org.uk/plants/roses/modern-bush/pruning-guide
Nice rose, that

Gers

FlorayG said:

It's group 16. Very tough. Details here https://www.rhs.org.uk/plants/roses/modern-bush/pruning-guide
Nice rose, that

Thanks - so:

Floribunda (cluster-flowered): pruning group 16

• Cut back the strongest remaining shoots down to within 25-30cm (10in-1ft) of soil level
• Prune back less vigorous shoots more severely
• Occasionally some older stems can be pruned hard back to a few inches from soil level. This encourages stronger growth from the base

When to prune floribunda and hybrid tea roses

Roses can be pruned during late winter when growth is just resuming, usually in mid-February in the south, but in northern and colder areas wait until March.

I'm in a northern and colder area so will wait until March! 

Brie said:

Don't know but it's lovely!!

It really is!  I so want to keep it.  I was away from home for over three years looking after my now late DM which is why it got neglected. Now it's time to 'hug' it but the thorns are extremely big and tough.

Farway

Some details here from RHS

https://www.rhs.org.uk/plants/290465/rosa-girlguiding-uk-centenary-rose-(-harnova-)-(f)/details

When you prune, why not use some pruning for cuttings?

I have found roses do grow from cuttings, some are as easy as poke a stick into the ground and wait

There are details on the linked page

FlorayG

Honestly you could just hack it down it will recover - but for now, prune back anything over-heavy in autumn so it doesn't break, then do the proper pruning in spring just as the leaf buds start to show - late Feb/ March. Then feed it really well next summer, either liquid once a week or rose pellet feed once every 6 weeks it will be back lovelier than ever.
Stick some of the prunings in the ground in a sheltered spot, some of them will probably 'take'

Gers

FlorayG said:

Honestly you could just hack it down it will recover - but for now, prune back anything over-heavy in autumn so it doesn't break, then do the proper pruning in spring just as the leaf buds start to show - late Feb/ March. Then feed it really well next summer, either liquid once a week or rose pellet feed once every 6 weeks it will be back lovelier than ever.
Stick some of the prunings in the ground in a sheltered spot, some of them will probably 'take'

Will do! This photo is from July 2021 - just to show the enormous growth in three years.  It does seem hardy. I'll stick some sticks in the ground and offer a thought to the gods of flowers.

Thanks so much for all the advice and encouragement.

FlorayG

Oh I didn't notice it's in a pot - it probably needs a bigger pot and fresh John Innes Number 3 compost as well