PCN paid for by leasing company

Fruitcake

Coupon-mad said:

You can't appeal. They are wrong.

The hire company sent payment by post, so the OP can appeal as long as it is done before the letter drops on G24's doormat.

1505grandad

"Here is the complaint I have drafted: 

I am writing raise a complaint regarding your recent handling of the two penalty charge notices (PCNs)....."

I think it has already been pointed out that they are NOT penalty notices. 

travellover123

1505grandad said:

"I think it has already been pointed out that they are NOT penalty notices. "

Oh I assumed they are because the ticket says "Contractual Parking Charge Notice", what are they?

Gr1pr

travellover123 said:

1505grandad said:

"I think it has already been pointed out that they are NOT penalty notices. "

Oh I assumed they are because the ticket says "Contractual Parking Charge Notice", what are they?

A Parking Charge Notice, PCN, an invoice, issued by a private parking company for the alleged breach of the parking contract on that private property. The Contractual part is what the driver agreed to on the signs, the terms and conditions of parking there, by conduct 

So Parking Charge Notice, not a Penalty Charge ( a PN can happen on land where bylaws apply, like railway land and stations. )

I have been telling you all along that these PCNs are not penalties and not fines, despite what the lease company stated. The lease company don't appear to have any idea about the legal side, a common trait 

I suggest that you stop assuming and stick to legal facts only, assumptions wont win cases

travellover123

Ohhh apolgoies, I've always said PCN for Parking Charge Notice. I didn't realise I wrote penalty charge instead of parking charge and that the messages are saying that they are not penalty notices.

My bad, sorry for the confusion. 

Gr1pr

As I said, words matter, very important, study the following thread where vwfs messed up and paid, they cancelled the charge issued to the lessee 

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6546354/pps-pcn-invoice-paid-already-by-vwfs-what-to-do-help-neeeded#latest

travellover123

Oh amazing!! 
Hopefully the same will happen with my leasing company too once I complain. 
When I originally called (before I started this thread) and asked why they paid when they usually just nominate me, they said it's because G24 don't allow nominations which is obviously bs so don't think they'll be able to argue that! *fingers crossed* 

Gr1pr

travellover123 said:

Oh amazing!! 
Hopefully the same will happen with my leasing company too once I complain. 
When I originally called (before I started this thread) and asked why they paid when they usually just nominate me, they said it's because G24 don't allow nominations which is obviously bs so don't think they'll be able to argue that! *fingers crossed* 

Its irrelevant what G24 allow or don't allow, the law named POFA 2012 trumps made up rules by private companies, so the lease company should be following the lawful process, regardless of what private companies decide over tea and biscuits 

travellover123

Haha yep I definitely agree, seems like I have a strong case against them. Just need G24 to inevitably reject my claim now

LDast

Four pages and the waffle goes on. G24 will laugh all the way to the bank. What a waste of time and effort to try and speak to G24 when it is the lease company that is at fault because of the intellectual malnourishment of their employees in the “fines” department.

G24 are not going to sue anyone. It is the Hirer that needs to sue the stupid lease company for paying the PCN. If the Hirer has any sense, they will get their bank or card company to chargeback any debit made to them by the lease company and let the lease company sort out their own incompetence.

Chasing G24 is going to be an exercise in futility and four pages on, it’s still being argued.