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Where would you put 150k in investments now?

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  • eskbanker
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    solidpro said:
    eskbanker said:

    If you're measuring specifically on performance over the past few years, any meaningful effort to benchmark VLS100 entails assessing how many comparable passive global equity products returned more than 10% over the same period and how many less, rather than blindly asserting that 10% is 'good' in a vacuum....

    For example, looking (on Trustnet) at the figures for the five years up to yesterday, VLS100's return is 57.2%, below popular low-cost global equity trackers such as Vanguard's FTSE Global All Cap (61.1%) and HSBC FTSE All World (66.1%).  That's not to say that those are the only benchmark to use, and there are a variety of index choices, but that was my original question, i.e. against which competitors would VLS100 be objectively evaluated as 'good'?
    Comparing just 2 low-cost equity trackers against VLS100 without explaining what low-cost means by comparison and without comparing to a wider pool of more than simply 2 companies, and simply/only over a 5 year timeframe, when most people should be considering investments in decades, not 5 years, along with the fact that any reasoning in this vaccum that a fund with 0.9% difference is 'better' is a bit like blindly asserting that  one fund's 10% is good. In a vaccum.  
    Congratulations, I think you're finally beginning to understanding what benchmarking means!

    The points you make are surprisingly valid and largely echo my original question:
    eskbanker said:
    AAZ said:
    All excellent comment here
    For global tracker I use VWRL
    Vanguard Lifetsrategy 100 is also a good option
    'Good' by what benchmark and for achieving what objective?  The non-100 VLS range have their plus points but the 100 is usually seen as the least appealing, especially when compared with cap-weighted trackers, some at lower cost....
    In other words, I was asking for which benchmark was being used to support the notion that VLS100 is 'good', and only cited a couple of fairly obvious competitors to illustrate that it's not necessarily 'good' if its performance is compared with some peers over your chosen arbitrary period.
  • Nevbear
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  • solidpro
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    I think VLS100 making 10-11% in the last 5 years is good, if we're talking about risky investments. I have a 1000 word paper regarding benchmarks but I think it wouldn't be appropriate for a short-form forum room.
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