Steps Before Filing for Bankruptcy

Hi, hoping for a bit of clarity. I will unfortunately be filing for bankruptcy in the next couple of months but just want to check what I need to get in order before submitting the application. I have circa £55k in debts. I have never missed a payment and don't have any arrears or CCJs etc. A DRO would take me 10 years and 2 months to pay off so I feel that bankruptcy is the best option as I'm caught in this cycle of robbing Peter to pay Paul every month and it's just so stressful. After doing the budget, I know I will have some money leftover each month so I know I will be subject to paying the 3 year payment plan, which is all fine. So my questions are:

1. I have a car on finance for which payments end in April 2025. I can either give the car back or pay the balloon payment of £4k and keep the car. During the time I've had it, there are a few dings and scratches that I will be liable to pay for which I doubt I will be able to afford. What is the best option? I need a car for work as I travel around so I'm hoping I might be allowed to keep it? Is this something I can negotiate with the OR? 

2. I haven't yet asked for breathing space from my creditors - should I do this first and try to set aside some money over the two months before defaulting? 

3. I have a joint account with Revolut with my partner. He knows I will be filing for bankruptcy and we only use this account for paying bills - should I close this account and switch the bill payments to my current account? It's me who pays for the bills anyway. 

I think that's it for now - thanks in advance for any help! 
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  • EG35891
    EG35891 Posts: 10 Forumite
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    Sorry, I meant debt management plan not DRO and double checked it is 9 years and 9 months. 
  • stu12345_2
    stu12345_2 Posts: 1,576 Forumite
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    edited 12 August 2024 at 3:53PM
    who recommended bankruptcy which debt charity, cos if you got your debts down to £50000 a debt relief order may be better and depends on car situation as well 

    deciding your own bankruptcy is never advised, go to a debt charity for 100% confirmation that's the best solution 

    I assume you rent and don't own

    breathing space no point, just stop paying everything but your car for months, if you need to keep it, but that's classed as preferential treatment of creditors.
    then go bankrupt, but any money you have saved up will be taken from you in bankruptcy unless you spend it first in things you can justify 
    Christians Against Poverty solved my debt problem, when all other debt charities failed. Give them a call !! ( You don't have to be a Christian ! )

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  • EG35891
    EG35891 Posts: 10 Forumite
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    Hi, yes I did it through StepChange and there were two recommendations - a debt management plan which would take the 9 years and 9 months to pay off or bankruptcy. 

    No, I don't own any property and do rent. I literally have no assets. 
  • EG35891
    EG35891 Posts: 10 Forumite
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    I'm in Northern Ireland and also just found out that creditors here don't offer the same breathing space as England and Wales anyway. 

    I'm a bit terrified of just stopping all payments as I've never missed one. Maybe the DMP is the better option but the thought of having debt for basically another 10 years is soul destroying and would that also mean at least 10 years of bad credit rating? 
  • sourcrates
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    Do you own a house?? or live with a partner that does, in that house?

    A car in bankruptcy can`t have a value exceeding 2k, unless its an adapted disability vehicle.

    Don`t rush to push the button, debt collection can take years, nothing is going to happen quickly, so take stock of your situation first.

    If you are going to do this, pre-preparation is a must, you must treat all creditors fairly, so stop all payments to all of them, get yourself a safe new basic bank account, with a bank with whom you have no debts.

    Save some cash, and keep it at home, you will need it as bank accounts can be frozen even if no debt is owed on it.

    Sort out the situation with the car, most likely return it, if you have 4k lying around, buy something cheap under 2k.

    You will need £680 for the bankruptcy fees.
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter
  • stu12345_2
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    edited 12 August 2024 at 4:00PM
    from first glance bankruptcy may be best.
    you may keep car if it's essential for work , eg no buses, but you may be required to get a cheaper model eg £4000.max car

    What's it's current market value and is there no other method to get to work 

    so if you pay off balloon what will car be worth, cos official receiver may still take it from you and leave you with £4000 max for another car, cos you are meant to release all assets to help pay back debts
    Christians Against Poverty solved my debt problem, when all other debt charities failed. Give them a call !! ( You don't have to be a Christian ! )

    https://capuk.org/contact-us
  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 31,024 Ambassador
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    from first glance bankruptcy may be best.
    you may keep car if it's essential for work , eg no buses, but you may be required to get a cheaper model eg £4000.max car

    What's it's current market value and is there no other method to get to work 
    Its 2k in bankruptcy stu, 4k in a DRO.
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter
  • stu12345_2
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    edited 12 August 2024 at 4:16PM
    thanks sourcrates, always thought it was £4 k cos of taxi drivers going bankrupt and saying a £2k car will breakdown and I've got dro on the brain at moment 

    can you still have your job or rent private if you are bankrupt, 
    What's more important debt free faster and  forget about credit file
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  • EG35891
    EG35891 Posts: 10 Forumite
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    Thanks both. So first step is to stop paying the creditors? I have two personal loans and a few credit cards. Or should I contact them first to ask if I can have a couple of months repayment holidays? 

    I know the car is a bit of a complication. I work in construction and I travel a lot so I need something roadworthy. The balloon payment if I keep it is £4k which I can't imagine an OR allowing me to pay but then I would be without a vehicle. Although I guess if I wait to file for bankruptcy until next year I can save £2k to buy one and give up the VW when the finance period ends. 

    We rent our house from an estate agents and may partner doesn't have any assets either apart from his car. We have a joint account which is only for bills but I will close that down. My current account has an overdraft and the same bank is where my loans and a credit card are with so I will transfer my wages utilities to my Revolut.
  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 31,024 Ambassador
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    thanks sourcrates, always thought it was £4 k cos of taxi drivers going bankrupt and saying a £2k car will breakdown and I've got dro on the brain at moment 
    Well good luck finding a 2k car these days, something that constantly breaks down is not what you want to be stuck with.
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter
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