BA Holidays

davetheman007007

Not really bothered re the BA Executive Club points, just want to be sure the return flight is not cancelled, without going through the hassle of having to check into the hotel

Grumpy_chap

davetheman007007 said:

Not really bothered re the BA Executive Club points, just want to be sure the return flight is not cancelled, without going through the hassle of having to check into the hotel

Won't the simplest thing be to just check in to the hotel and check out at the end of stay?
If you are a "no show" to the hotel that risks back-firing.

I assume the real reason the pricing works like this is the hotel sold a "job-lot" of rooms to BA on bargain rate and seek to make their money from the guests spending money in the bars and restaurants, but that is a risk for the hotel that they took knowingly.

davetheman007007

It is going out of my way to check in

Grumpy_chap

davetheman007007 said:

It is going out of my way to check in

Can you select a hotel that would not be going out of your way to check in?

You see, you want the discount of the package, but not willing to make any sacrifice for that discount.  There's no such thing as a free lunch.  Perhaps the better idea would be to forget about the package and simply buy the flights as they come - at least you will avoid the stress of not knowing whether the return flight got cancelled for being a no show at the hotel.

jimi_man

Grumpy_chap said:

davetheman007007 said:

Not really bothered re the BA Executive Club points, just want to be sure the return flight is not cancelled, without going through the hassle of having to check into the hotel

Won't the simplest thing be to just check in to the hotel and check out at the end of stay?
If you are a "no show" to the hotel that risks back-firing.

I assume the real reason the pricing works like this is the hotel sold a "job-lot" of rooms to BA on bargain rate and seek to make their money from the guests spending money in the bars and restaurants, but that is a risk for the hotel that they took knowingly.

No, the main reason for the pricing is that the airfares are consolidator fares - and thus significantly cheaper - and only available through travel agents so it’s often possible to get the flights and hotel for the same price or cheaper than just a straight air fare booking. They are generally a lot less flexible than straight air fares but if you’re sure about your travel arrangements then they can represent good value, if you’re prepared to work with the hotel/car side of things. 

Likely it would be ok however no-one is going to say for definite as there have been people who have fallen foul of it. 

jimi_man

Grumpy_chap said:

davetheman007007 said:

Not really bothered re the BA Executive Club points, just want to be sure the return flight is not cancelled, without going through the hassle of having to check into the hotel

Won't the simplest thing be to just check in to the hotel and check out at the end of stay?
If you are a "no show" to the hotel that risks back-firing.

I assume the real reason the pricing works like this is the hotel sold a "job-lot" of rooms to BA on bargain rate and seek to make their money from the guests spending money in the bars and restaurants, but that is a risk for the hotel that they took knowingly.

No, the main reason for the pricing is that the airfares are consolidator fares - and thus significantly cheaper - and only available through travel agents so it’s often possible to get the flights and hotel for the same price or cheaper than just a straight air fare booking. They are generally a lot less flexible than straight air fares but if you’re sure about your travel arrangements then they can represent good value, if you’re prepared to work with the hotel/car side of things. 

Likely it would be ok however no-one is going to say for definite as there have been people who have fallen foul of it. 

jimi_man

Grumpy_chap said:

davetheman007007 said:

Not really bothered re the BA Executive Club points, just want to be sure the return flight is not cancelled, without going through the hassle of having to check into the hotel

Won't the simplest thing be to just check in to the hotel and check out at the end of stay?
If you are a "no show" to the hotel that risks back-firing.

I assume the real reason the pricing works like this is the hotel sold a "job-lot" of rooms to BA on bargain rate and seek to make their money from the guests spending money in the bars and restaurants, but that is a risk for the hotel that they took knowingly.

No, the main reason for the pricing is that the airfares are consolidator fares - and thus significantly cheaper - and only available through travel agents so it’s often possible to get the flights and hotel for the same price or cheaper than just a straight air fare booking. They are generally a lot less flexible than straight air fares but if you’re sure about your travel arrangements then they can represent good value, if you’re prepared to work with the hotel/car side of things. 

Likely it would be ok however no-one is going to say for definite as there have been people who have fallen foul of it. 

silvercar

jimi_man said:

Grumpy_chap said:

davetheman007007 said:

Not really bothered re the BA Executive Club points, just want to be sure the return flight is not cancelled, without going through the hassle of having to check into the hotel

Won't the simplest thing be to just check in to the hotel and check out at the end of stay?
If you are a "no show" to the hotel that risks back-firing.

I assume the real reason the pricing works like this is the hotel sold a "job-lot" of rooms to BA on bargain rate and seek to make their money from the guests spending money in the bars and restaurants, but that is a risk for the hotel that they took knowingly.

No, the main reason for the pricing is that the airfares are consolidator fares - and thus significantly cheaper - and only available through travel agents so it’s often possible to get the flights and hotel for the same price or cheaper than just a straight air fare booking. They are generally a lot less flexible than straight air fares but if you’re sure about your travel arrangements then they can represent good value, if you’re prepared to work with the hotel/car side of things. 

Likely it would be ok however no-one is going to say for definite as there have been people who have fallen foul of it. 

It may be true of other travel agents, particularly the online only operators, but BAH only use BA flights and they book into standard booking classes.

jimi_man

silvercar said:

jimi_man said:

Grumpy_chap said:

davetheman007007 said:

Not really bothered re the BA Executive Club points, just want to be sure the return flight is not cancelled, without going through the hassle of having to check into the hotel

Won't the simplest thing be to just check in to the hotel and check out at the end of stay?
If you are a "no show" to the hotel that risks back-firing.

I assume the real reason the pricing works like this is the hotel sold a "job-lot" of rooms to BA on bargain rate and seek to make their money from the guests spending money in the bars and restaurants, but that is a risk for the hotel that they took knowingly.

No, the main reason for the pricing is that the airfares are consolidator fares - and thus significantly cheaper - and only available through travel agents so it’s often possible to get the flights and hotel for the same price or cheaper than just a straight air fare booking. They are generally a lot less flexible than straight air fares but if you’re sure about your travel arrangements then they can represent good value, if you’re prepared to work with the hotel/car side of things. 

Likely it would be ok however no-one is going to say for definite as there have been people who have fallen foul of it. 

It may be true of other travel agents, particularly the online only operators, but BAH only use BA flights and they book into standard booking classes.

That’s not correct I’m afraid. BAH operate to a number of destinations where they don’t fly to (Thailand being a case in point, though that’s changing in Oct) so they use other airlines. And even places where they do operate to they offer flights on other airlines as well as BA ones. 

Doshwaster

jimi_man said:

silvercar said:

jimi_man said:

Grumpy_chap said:

davetheman007007 said:

Not really bothered re the BA Executive Club points, just want to be sure the return flight is not cancelled, without going through the hassle of having to check into the hotel

Won't the simplest thing be to just check in to the hotel and check out at the end of stay?
If you are a "no show" to the hotel that risks back-firing.

I assume the real reason the pricing works like this is the hotel sold a "job-lot" of rooms to BA on bargain rate and seek to make their money from the guests spending money in the bars and restaurants, but that is a risk for the hotel that they took knowingly.

No, the main reason for the pricing is that the airfares are consolidator fares - and thus significantly cheaper - and only available through travel agents so it’s often possible to get the flights and hotel for the same price or cheaper than just a straight air fare booking. They are generally a lot less flexible than straight air fares but if you’re sure about your travel arrangements then they can represent good value, if you’re prepared to work with the hotel/car side of things. 

Likely it would be ok however no-one is going to say for definite as there have been people who have fallen foul of it. 

It may be true of other travel agents, particularly the online only operators, but BAH only use BA flights and they book into standard booking classes.

That’s not correct I’m afraid. BA operate to a number of destinations where they don’t fly to (Thailand being a case in point, though that’s changing in Oct) so they use other airlines. And even places where they do operate to they offer flights on other airlines as well as BA ones. 

That's right. BA Holidays also use One World airlines so you could find yourself on an American Airlines, Qatar, Iberia or other OW alliance flight

BA are returning to Bangkok (and Kuala Lumpur) after dropping the route due to the pandemic but it will be from Gatwick and initially only 3 times a week as Bangkok is more of a leisure destination than a business one.