EURO CAR PARKS//QDR SOLICITORS PCN

nick1998

Hi, 

I really need some help at the moment and wonder if someone could help advise me adequately. 

A few months back, I parked in a Sainsbury's car park on two separate occasions. It was my mistake as when I usually park there, the max stay was previously 2 hours however since renovation of the car park it had changed to 90 minutes. I was obviusly still under the assumption that it was the same. 

As a result I received two separate PCN’s to my address. They arrived in my post while I was travelling & away. Both PCN’s started as Euro Car Parks, transferred over to ZZPS & now are with QDR solicitors. Whereby I have received notice that I have 14 days to pay. 

I have been in contact with them stating that I was not the driver on the day of the contravention, that I can provide the details of the driver and their address (who have agree’d for me to do that so the PCN can be started again from scratch in their name, as opposed to paying the increased rate of £310 for both charges as much time has passed since the PCN). Yet, after some back and forth all they have said they will put the case on hold for 30 days for me. They also stated that nothing can be done at this stage other than the amount for both PCN’s to be paid at £310. 

My question is whether there is anyway for the PCN procedure to be started from the beginning by being changed into someone else’s details and address. 

Furthermore, am I able to just ignore QDR solicitors after this “30 day hold”. They said that the notes from our conversation were logged so that Euro Car Park can see my side of the story. 

But essentially, my ideal scenario is for both parking charge notices to be started again at the discounted rate. As £80 is a lot better than £310. 

Please be in touch, 

Many thanks

LDast

Obviously you haven't read the Newbies/FAQ thread. You must stop communicating with QDR. They are acting as a slimy debt collector and their "30 day" hold is nothing but a ruse in their scam. They are hoping that you are low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree and will capitulate and pay the scammers out of ignorance of civil law litigation.

Nobody pays ECP or their scamming partners QDR/ZZPS/GCTT et al. All you received was a speculative invoice from ECP for an alleged breach of contract by the driver. It gave you 14 days to pay a reduced amount and they would cal it quits. Do you always pay anyone who sends you an invoice out of the blue and then offers you a bribe discount to pay it off early?

You are too late to appeal so you now need to wait for a Letter of Claim (LoC) which almost certainly won't be from QDR. When you do get an LoC, have a thorough read of the second post in the Newbies/FAQ thread for how to respond. Do not pay these scammers a penny. You are being scammed.

A real LoC will give you 30 days to pay (don't ).

nick1998

Apologies for my ignorance. This is all fairly new to me & a bit confused. 

Couple questions if you don’t mind - 

1. Is it indefinite that I will receive an LoC? 

asking because I feel like by making the mistake of already communicating, my comments and statements that me not being the driver on the day & not at fault for the charge could make them reconsider chasing it further. As it may cost them more to go to court that the charge itself. 

2. If I wait for an LoC, will it be a case of the £310 charge increasing to more? 

Coupon-mad

Scotland or England or Wales?

What do you see (and learn from) when you search the forum for these words and change to NEWEST (never leave it at 'best match'):

ZZPR QDR Euro

Read the other threads like yours in August that we have answered so far this past week. About one every other day. All already brimming with advice.

Of course you ignore this. I don't understand why you contacted QDR (it was appalling ZZPS in fact, because no solicitor is involved).

Neither of these things (below) need to be done UNLESS the driver would be better at coping than the keeper.  If that is the case then the keeper CAN TRANSFER LIABILITY as a matter of fact and law. There is no 28 day deadline to have done that.

I have been in contact with them stating that I was not the driver on the day of the contravention, that I can provide the details of the driver and their address (who have agree’d for me to do that so the PCN can be started again from scratch in their name, as opposed to paying the increased rate of £310 for both charges as much time has passed since the PCN). 

Obviously nobody is going to pay.

Decide now: keeper or driver? Who will cope with threatograms better and who will follow our advice and stop taking the bait of a scammer & phoning/emailing them just because a daft threatogram arrived?

f I wait for an LoC, will it be a case of the £310 charge increasing to more? 

Less.  Yes, LESS because the Defendant will not lose the case.  You'll pay nothing.  And QDR don't file court claims for ECP.  The case will be shifted to DCB Ltd then DCB Legal. All round the houses before you get a LOC. 

But this is already covered in the 2nd post of the NEWBIES thread.  Really easy stage.

Ignore them or transfer liability.

Why haven't Sains head office cancelled these for you yet, when you complained?

Le_Kirk

nick1998 said:

A few months back, I parked in a Sainsbury's car park on two separate occasions. It was my mistake as when I usually park there, the max stay was previously 2 hours however since renovation of the car park it had changed to 90 minutes. I was obviously still under the assumption that it was the same. 

I have been in contact with them stating that I was not the driver on the day of the contravention, that I can provide the details of the driver and their address (who have agree’d agreed for me to do that so the PCN can be started again from scratch in their name, as opposed to paying the increased rate of £310 for both charges as much time has passed since the PCN). 

Those two statement do not compute!