We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

IMPORTANT: Please make sure your posts do not contain any personally identifiable information (both your own and that of others). When uploading images, please take care that you have redacted all personal information including number plates, reference numbers and QR codes (which may reveal vehicle information when scanned).
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
The Forum now has a brand new text editor, adding a bunch of handy features to use when creating posts. Read more in our how-to guide

GDPR breach on evidence

Hi, I'm about to appeal to the IPS 9based on terrible signage). On my initial appeal to the Parking company i missed that all the cars in their evidence have their registrations clearly visable to me, Is this a GDPR breach and can it help my appeal? Also their CCTV evidence doesn't actually show the car parked, as the bay is obscured, should that help too/ thanks a lot, great forum, wish i'd found it sooner!

Comments

  • Half_way
    Half_way Posts: 7,758 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    A picture of a car showing its registration plate, on its own is not a data breach. However it would be if combined with the registered keeper data.
    Have you read the "sticky" thread on this forum ( newbies read this) ?

    Is this CCTV evidence or an ANPR picture?

    What exactly have you said in your "appeal" to the parking company?
    what is the name of this parking company?
    whos car park is this?
    Do not attempt to guess as to who could have been driving.

    The IAS - so-called independent appeals whatever is a sham and is not independent, do not expect them to  do not be surprised if they turn down your "appeal" however  be surprised if they accept it
    From the Plain Language Commission:

    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
  • LDast
    LDast Posts: 2,496 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    arronr said:
    Is this a GDPR breach and can it help my appeal?
    No and no.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 162,785 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Do you mean you are trying an IAS appeal? Don't.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • arronr
    arronr Posts: 5 Forumite
    First Anniversary First Post
    Thanks a lot, Yes i read the sticky post but read it too late! As i've to the IPS appeal stage is there herm in appealing even if it is a sham? 
  • h2g2
    h2g2 Posts: 275 Forumite
    Fourth Anniversary 100 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    edited 8 August 2024 at 9:25AM
    No harm in making an appeal, in the grand scheme of things. But they reject the vast majority of appeals. The reason it's not recommended is nothing to do with harming your case, but more to do with the fact that it won't ever help your case. A poorly written appeal can also hurt your case. If you, for example, accidentally admit you were driving you can no longer rely on a deficient Notice to Keeper - a much easier defence than defending as driver. Or if you admit to breaching the T&Cs in the appeal (e.g.: "I didn't mean to overstay, but got held up because the film was longer than I realised" or something like that) it makes your defence much harder.

    It also gives the IAS/IPC/PPC an opportunity to write you a scary-looking formal letter which is designed to evoke a reaction of "oh [preferred expletive here], I've got no chance I'll just pay it". Which is a win for the PPC and a loss for you.

    Just be aware that they will reject your appeal, for the same reason a hungry tiger will tell you they're only inviting you over for dinner...
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 162,785 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Don't do it. Puts you on the back foot and buoys them to continue to intimidate you.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • arronr
    arronr Posts: 5 Forumite
    First Anniversary First Post
    Thanks a lot, so if i ignore, just thinking about what's next. I had 3 separate tickets for parking in a customer only area. (didn't see the crap small poorly located entrance sign, and no in park signs where i parked so im my veiw didn't enter a contract). Am i right in thinking they'd have to treat each ticket separately if taken to court? thanks all.
  • LDast
    LDast Posts: 2,496 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    If all three PCNs are for the same basic event at the same location for the same vehicle, then they should take them all to court as a single claim. However, if they don't, after the first claim you have the advantage of claiming cause of action estoppel. Look it up.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 162,785 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    arronr said:
    Thanks a lot, so if i ignore, just thinking about what's next. I had 3 separate tickets for parking in a customer only area. (didn't see the crap small poorly located entrance sign, and no in park signs where i parked so im my veiw didn't enter a contract). Am i right in thinking they'd have to treat each ticket separately if taken to court? thanks all.
    No. One claim. Easily defended. No risk.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 354.8K Banking & Borrowing
  • 254.5K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 455.6K Spending & Discounts
  • 247.6K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 604.5K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 178.6K Life & Family
  • 262.2K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.