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Undervalued

Dakta said:

Haha I am in a union, have been for six months

The issue is there's not really many, if anyone in a union where I work, so I'm the only one - technically it shouldn't provide a barrier to me being given advice, but when I asked them for support they said they'd have to get back to me as they don't have an agreement in place with my organisaiton.

@LinLui - that was my understanding as well, so not sure why it matters. 

That's nonsense. They don't need "an agreement in place" to advise a member or accompany the member at a formal meeting where the law gives that right.

OK, maybe they mean at other types of meeting where there is no absolute legal right to be accompanied? 

Depending on your disability, allowing you to be accompanied at such meetings might well be a "reasonable adjustment' (which is required)?

NCC1701-A

Undervalued said:

Dakta said:

Haha I am in a union, have been for six months

The issue is there's not really many, if anyone in a union where I work, so I'm the only one - technically it shouldn't provide a barrier to me being given advice, but when I asked them for support they said they'd have to get back to me as they don't have an agreement in place with my organisaiton.

@LinLui - that was my understanding as well, so not sure why it matters. 

That's nonsense. They don't need "an agreement in place" to advise a member or accompany the member at a formal meeting where the law gives that right.

OK, maybe they mean at other types of meeting where there is no absolute legal right to be accompanied? 

Depending on your disability, allowing you to be accompanied at such meetings might well be a "reasonable adjustment' (which is required)?

Well as the OP was still looking for a union in April, & all this started long before joining any Union, its not surprising they may not be minded to help OP and are simply fobbing them off.

LinLui

NCC1701-A said:

Undervalued said:

Dakta said:

Haha I am in a union, have been for six months

The issue is there's not really many, if anyone in a union where I work, so I'm the only one - technically it shouldn't provide a barrier to me being given advice, but when I asked them for support they said they'd have to get back to me as they don't have an agreement in place with my organisaiton.

@LinLui - that was my understanding as well, so not sure why it matters. 

That's nonsense. They don't need "an agreement in place" to advise a member or accompany the member at a formal meeting where the law gives that right.

OK, maybe they mean at other types of meeting where there is no absolute legal right to be accompanied? 

Depending on your disability, allowing you to be accompanied at such meetings might well be a "reasonable adjustment' (which is required)?

Well as the OP was still looking for a union in April, & all this started long before joining any Union, its not surprising they may not be minded to help OP and are simply fobbing them off.

So,  the OP joined a union in April, and days ago said they'd been in a union for six months. So... three months. And judging by previous threads we have issues in this employment dating back at least a year. 

OP, you "reached out" for union help within weeks of joining. No union is impressed by that especially when the issues are long standing. Unfortunately it's also a little hard to advise when the information isn't entirely accurate.

Last year you said you could get another job very easily. Given the circumstances now reading back over previous threads,  I think that might be advisable. Get a fresh start. 

Dakta

I wasn't sure of the dates, I joined soon after starting my new role so I've done a bit of clarification - joined at the back end of february

The issue I've raised is of the pay grade, the discrimination I accept may be out of band, however that's not what I reached out about, I only mentioned that because someone said it may be pertinent, but it wasn't part of my email to them and I didn't consider it at the time, I beleived it seperate.

The minimum membership for full support is 4 weeks.

I won't be leaving the company imminently, and getting another job in my old role would be relatively easy abd though may consider it in the longer run when I have enough experience to get a role in my new area, which - if on proper banding - would be a considerable upgrade.  You can advise against this of course and you're free to do so. 

LinLui

You joined in February? Why did you post in April saying that you wanted advice on which union to join AND said in that thread that you had just joined one,  in April. You can see why this is very confusing? 

Can I also check - do you have two years employment with this employer? Because now looking at the previous threads it appears not? And you had a pay grade dispute with your last employer too?

But these things are connected... you are claiming a pay scale award despite having never been appointed to that role after a redeployment to another team (not another role) because of the grievances you had with a (newish? ) employer. Or is this all still part of the grievances you wrote about previously and ask one employer,  and you didn't take the new job?

Honestly,  the quality of advice from anyone, here,  from a union,  from a solicitor,  depends on the clarity of the information. You can't just compartmentalise what you think is "right" or "relevant" and expect good advice. 

Dakta

I am still with the same employer and have been for five years (if we exclude a year of contracting). 

As I said earlier, I'm having a discussion with leadership to discuss my pathway in the next few days and we will see how that goes. 

NCC1701-A

Dakta said:

I am still with the same employer and have been for five years (if we exclude a year of contracting). 

As I said earlier, I'm having a discussion with leadership to discuss my pathway in the next few days and we will see how that goes. 

Try to be open and honest with your posts, when was the year of contracting & with who?

Undervalued

Dakta said:

I am still with the same employer and have been for five years (if we exclude a year of contracting). 

As I said earlier, I'm having a discussion with leadership to discuss my pathway in the next few days and we will see how that goes. 

But do we, legally speaking?

When was the year's contracting and does that constitute a break in your employment?