New, budget or second hand white goods for a new property rental? Advice please.

RHemmings

BikingBud said:

The point I'm making is spending money when there are lots of cheaper options, some are even free, that would leave funds to cover housing costs, deposit, legal fees etc doesn't seem to be sound MSE advice.

Buying a car on PCP rather than buying one to last 20 years is the issue.  

It's the same mentality, satisfying immediate wants rather than needs and spending money that is not readily available or could be better spent elsewhere. 

Once in the house and the bow wave of expenditure has passed work out what you would like and how to get there. A new kitchen including built in appliances means the ones that were just bought even if cheapo will not be staying. Whereas free cycle does it's job and everybody get some benefit.

Anyone who wants my fridge-freezer can have it for free. Then I'll get a nicer one and the unlucky person who gets mine will struggle with the damn thing. 

Murphybear

Mr.Generous said:

One of the issues for me is that Premium brand stuff can and does fail just as frequently as cheap stuff. Sometimes the new tech fitted just isn't proven or reliable, and sometimes brands with a good reputation tha took years to build downhill really quickly. Another vote for Beko for a washer, but I wouldn't see an issue buying a used F/F - as others said some people change them or move house and sell them when nearly new. A good clean is all it needs.

If you get a good relationship with landlord you might end up being able to sell appliances directly to new tenant with a bit of luck.

I don’t think that’s a very accurate observation.  When my partner retired he got a lump sum from a works pension and he splashed out and bought a washer-dryer, dishwasher, full height fridge, full height freezer, small freezer.  These are all Miele.  We bought them from a local Miele dealer and he got a very good deal and free delivery as we bought so much.  This was nearly 20 years ago and they all still look and work like new.  Nothing has ever gone wrong. 

Miele has an unrivalled reputation in Europe, I visited some English friends who had lived in the Netherlands for years and their Miele top loader washing machine had just celebrated its 40th birthday.    

Ive just had a good look at “Which” latest reviews on washing machines, fridges and freezers.  In general terms brands like Miele, Bosch and Samsung come out on top and much cheaper brands don’t do so well.  Part of their reviews look at how many times people have had to call someone out.  This information is obtained from customers.  .

However this doesn’t mean there aren’t some good value items that cost less, there are.  “Which” label the best and worst machines as “Best buys” and “don’t buys”.

One thing to think about is the longevity of the appliances.  Miele has a reputation for lasting many years, their appliances are very well built but they are very heavy.

In general terms you get what you pay for.  

I am going to advise the OP to look for appliances on Freecycle and then buy new ones when they’ve bought a new property.  Some of the larger charities sell household things, sometimes fridges, washing machines etc.  

BarelySentientAI

Murphybear said:

Mr.Generous said:

One of the issues for me is that Premium brand stuff can and does fail just as frequently as cheap stuff. Sometimes the new tech fitted just isn't proven or reliable, and sometimes brands with a good reputation tha took years to build downhill really quickly. Another vote for Beko for a washer, but I wouldn't see an issue buying a used F/F - as others said some people change them or move house and sell them when nearly new. A good clean is all it needs.

If you get a good relationship with landlord you might end up being able to sell appliances directly to new tenant with a bit of luck.

I don’t think that’s a very accurate observation.  

Statistics from the insurance industry in terms of serious problems (like causing house fires) suggest the observation is entirely accurate at least on that front.

The relative number of incidents involving each manufacturer broadly track the relative sales volume of each.

You could be right in terms of general breakdown and repair though, I don't have any specific knowledge of that.

BikingBud

We have miele too washer and dryer bought before kids and subject to regular hammer, we used terry nappies not disposable and many years of very manky rugby kit, kids now 24 and 25 washer going strong, dryer only used occasionally as we prefer to hang stuff outside.

Dishwasher slightly younger as only about 15 years.

All bought from John Lewis with 10 year warranty, never used.

But I come back to the point that spending when you don't know what your next housing solution will be, get something low cost or free and if you get a great offer on a house with built in then you are not worried about free cycling the white good that covered your need temporarily. 

RHemmings

Are current Miele white goods still of the same quality as before?

Albermarle

RHemmings said:

Are current Miele white goods still of the same quality as before?

Well, they are still a lot more expensive, so hopefully they are!

RHemmings

Albermarle said:

RHemmings said:

Are current Miele white goods still of the same quality as before?

Well, they are still a lot more expensive, so hopefully they are!

Given opinions as per this thread and elsewhere, I'm seriously considering Miele for when I finally get too sick of the current awful fridge/freezer. My second hand cheap washing machine can stay until it dies properly as it's fine.  

BikingBud

RHemmings said:

Are current Miele white goods still of the same quality as before?

Don't know