PIP Mobility Question.

peteuk

anotherquestion said:

Hi folks,

Our teenage son is being migrated from DLA to PIP,  he has severe learning difficulties, Autism and is non-verbal, also has epilepsy. We have to keep an eye on him at all times when out and about, walk beside him etc, hold his arm so that he doesn't wander off.

As regards the PIP Mobility question about being able to walk 200 metres or so, Just wondering what is is the best way to answer this,  should we answer NO as he cant do it safely by himself, or answer Yes but then write in the box that he can't safely do it by himself.

Thanks a lot for any advice.

@poppy@poppy12345 and @Alice_Holt. The OP is clearly only asking about mobility and the ability to walk 200 meters.  

There is no physical condition that stops him walking 200 meters,   So what I have provided is the way I was taught to asses this, that way the OP is aware, and prepared.

Moving and planing a journey are two different activities and the OP has not asked anything about planing a journey.  In my mind throwing in issues of epilepsy and if they have warnings doesnt help, doesnt fit into walking 200 meters.   But if the combination of conditions means the claimant is unsteady, prone to falls ect then the use of aids could be looked at. 

Muttleythefrog

peteuk said:

anotherquestion said:

Hi folks,

Our teenage son is being migrated from DLA to PIP,  he has severe learning difficulties, Autism and is non-verbal, also has epilepsy. We have to keep an eye on him at all times when out and about, walk beside him etc, hold his arm so that he doesn't wander off.

As regards the PIP Mobility question about being able to walk 200 metres or so, Just wondering what is is the best way to answer this,  should we answer NO as he cant do it safely by himself, or answer Yes but then write in the box that he can't safely do it by himself.

Thanks a lot for any advice.

@poppy@poppy12345 and @Alice_Holt. The OP is clearly only asking about mobility and the ability to walk 200 meters.  

There is no physical condition that stops him walking 200 meters,   So what I have provided is the way I was taught to asses this, that way the OP is aware, and prepared.

Mobility and planing a journey are two different activities and the OP has not asked anything about planing a journey.  In my mind throwing in issues of epilepsy and if they have warnings doesnt help, doesnt fit into walking 200 meters.   But if the combination of conditions means the claimant is unsteady, prone to falls ect then the use of aids could be looked at. 

I think they're picking up you referring to Mobility as you've done here to refer to Activity 2 of Mobility component of PIP Re: Moving around. This will confuse as Planning and following journeys is also a mobility activity... there is no 'mobility' activity itself. The Op didn't ask about Mobility activity 1 but it is absolutely right people have raised it as it may be more relevant than the activity they're asking about. At face value both Mobility activities could be relevant due to cognition issues and seizure risks but I suspect are much more likely to be imposed successfully in activity 1 as has been pointed to.

poppy12345

peteuk said:

anotherquestion said:

Hi folks,

Our teenage son is being migrated from DLA to PIP,  he has severe learning difficulties, Autism and is non-verbal, also has epilepsy. We have to keep an eye on him at all times when out and about, walk beside him etc, hold his arm so that he doesn't wander off.

As regards the PIP Mobility question about being able to walk 200 metres or so, Just wondering what is is the best way to answer this,  should we answer NO as he cant do it safely by himself, or answer Yes but then write in the box that he can't safely do it by himself.

Thanks a lot for any advice.

Mobility and planing a journey are two different activities

That's misleading. Mobility has 2 parts, moving around and following and planning a journey.

peteuk

poppy12345 said:

That's misleading. Mobility has 2 parts, moving around and following and planning a journey.

I used mobility as thats what the OP used however I have edited this for clarity. 

“As regards the PIP Mobility question about being able to walk 200 metres or so.”

poppy12345

peteuk said:

poppy12345 said:

That's misleading. Mobility has 2 parts, moving around and following and planning a journey.

I used mobility as thats what the OP used however I have edited this for clarity. 

“As regards the PIP Mobility question about being able to walk 200 metres or so.”

They asked about the moving around part because they clearly didn't understand that activity. Alice kindly explained both activities in their first comment and advised it wouldn't apply. 

anotherquestion

Thanks all for replies, our son can't cook a meal or even go about the initial stages of planning it, so we make him all his meals. 

When out and about we guide him by the arm a lot of the time, in case he would dash off on his own, often he will take one or two of us by the hand as well.

As regards bathtime he wouldn't be able to set the right temperature of the water, or more than likely he would try to drink out of any bottles  such as shampoo, body wash in bathroom.

I know it may sound that we haven't tried to teach him the above things, but that is the way he is, its not that we haven't tried.

He is much loved and brings a smile to us all every day.

peteuk

anotherquestion said:

Thanks all for replies, our son can't cook a meal or even go about the initial stages of planning it, so we make him all his meals. 

When out and about we guide him by the arm a lot of the time, in case he would dash off on his own, often he will take one or two of us by the hand as well.

As regards bathtime he wouldn't be able to set the right temperature of the water, or more than likely he would try to drink out of any bottles  such as shampoo, body wash in bathroom.

I know it may sound that we haven't tried to teach him the above things, but that is the way he is, its not that we haven't tried.

He is much loved and brings a smile to us all every day.

Your son is your son and he will be loved by many.  PIP is designed for those, who like your son cannot independently do the activities of life that others take for granted.   It is also very difficult, so to fully understand the process I would strongly suggest looking at the activities and descriptors and understanding them.   Use real life examples on the questionaire and assessment (if an assessment is required). 

Good luck